Talk:Vehicles in GTA IV: Difference between revisions

:[[Vehicles in GTA San Andreas]] uses: Sports Cars, SUV, Lowrider, Muscle Cars, Vans, Industrial, 2 Door, 4 Door, Service, Fun, Government, Planes, Helicopters, Boats, Bikes, Remote Control. Could you suggest your categories so we can see how the breakdown is? Essentially, we just need to make the table easy to use and useful for visitors - just having 'cars' doesn't do that - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 11:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

:Thats quite good. However, I think the number of categories is a bit high. Perhaps you could merge some into lists of about 10 cars ber box? That way the table is perhaps easier to use. For example, police and half of public service can go into 'Emergency', whilst the other half of public-service can be merged with public transport. Same with SUV and pickups. Perhaps people carrier and SUV too? Same with Vans and Trucks. Muscle and 2-door? You get the picture. Having categories with only 4 cars may help some, but it makes it more arkward to do a broader search. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 16:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for that, it's looking great. One criticism I do have is the use of ambiguous terms. Names such as SUV, station wagon and muscle car aren't used as much outside the USA. Also you have Vans and Commercial Vans, so perhaps the sections could be named a bit clearer. I'd suggest the 4 door section simply contains 4 door saloons, then all larger vehicles go into the SUV or 4x4 section, and smaller vehicles go into the 2 door, hatchback or 'smaller cars' category. Muscle cars should definitely go with sports cars, but what about lowriders? They don't count as small cars (even though they have 2 doors), and they don't count as 4x4s/SUVs. Any suggestions on that? I think we're nearly sorted, thanks for all this, great work - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

:We're working on a new table to better organise this (see above). Also, it is better than a car is listed in two sections if it clearly fits into both sections. That way the cars are easy to find if you're looking for them. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

:I'm not so sure that the vehicles have "make and model," but more importantly, this table is intended to help readers find a particular vehicle they are looking for. It is much easier to find the specific sports car, for instance, that they're looking for with the current format than if the table were ordered by make and model. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]^{[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]} 02:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think many people know these vehicles by their brand name, and I don't think a brand name is a useful piece of information in this context. If, for example, I remember a sports car I liked and wanted to know what it was called, I'd look at the pages of all the cars under "Sports Cars" to find a picture of it. Or if I wanted to choose a car to use for a particular function, I'd look under the relevant section and pick from there. Knowing brand names doesn't help at all, and in fact can make it more complicated than it needs to be, considering the cars only say "Stallion" "Uranus" etc when you get in them. Please explain how manufacturer name would help people find things (which is the point of this page)? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ^{[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]} 20:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

:Don't worry... It's definitely something to think about, we just wanted to explain why it wasn't appropriate for ''this'' page, rather than just saying, "That's a bad idea." You might consider adding this info to the individual cars' pages, as a sort of extra detail. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]^{[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]} 19:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

::Absolutely. Sorry, I didn't mean to dismiss your idea. There should definitely be a [[Car Brands]] or [[Vehicle Manufacturers]] page, with a better name to replace [[:Category:Automotive Makers]]. That page could have a table showing the cars made by each of the main manufacturers. That should be linked to from here. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ^{[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]} 19:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

::I agree with BGFE; we won't be able to tell how items from the DLC should be documented until we see to what degree it is independent of - or integrated with - the main game. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]^{[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]} 03:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:I'm not sure why the TLAD tags were removed, but it's misleading to have the list like this. I'm of the opinion that these vehicles shouldn't be listed on this page, since they aren't available to Niko. Any opinions? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]^{[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]} 05:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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