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{{Gripe}}Undercover police officers do not appear at 3 wanted star levels or higher. | {{Gripe}}Undercover police officers do not appear at 3 wanted star levels or higher. | ||
:{{Rebut}}There never were undercover police officers. Those seen in casual clothes in previous GTA games were FBI agents. | :{{Rebut}}There never were undercover police officers. Those seen in casual clothes in previous GTA games were FBI agents. | ||
::{{Gripe}}Yes there were. There were casual clothed police clothes equipped with a sort of sub-machine gun in [[GTA VC]] and [[GTA VCS]] driving [[VCPD Cheetah]]s. Also, even if there were never undercover officers before, there's no reason why it couldn't be in "realistic" GTA IV. | ::{{Gripe}}Yes there were. There were casual clothed police clothes equipped with a sort of sub-machine gun in [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA VC]] and [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories|GTA VCS]] driving [[VCPD Cheetah]]s. Also, even if there were never undercover officers before, there's no reason why it couldn't be in "realistic" GTA IV. | ||
:::{{Rebut}}I don't remember seeing any in the previous games either. Besides, maybe you just haven't come across any? | :::{{Rebut}}I don't remember seeing any in the previous games either. Besides, maybe you just haven't come across any? | ||
::::{{Gripe}}Pay and Spray has become almost useless. When no cops are around, it's easier to just outrun them. When they are around, you can't spray. | ::::{{Gripe}}Pay and Spray has become almost useless. When no cops are around, it's easier to just outrun them. When they are around, you can't spray. | ||
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::::{{Gripe}}If you would attempt to fight or run away from a mugger, you're likely to get shot and eventually end up getting killed. If you wanna stay alive, then your only solution is to hand him your money, and your life is spared. | ::::{{Gripe}}If you would attempt to fight or run away from a mugger, you're likely to get shot and eventually end up getting killed. If you wanna stay alive, then your only solution is to hand him your money, and your life is spared. | ||
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{{Gripe}}Cops do not initiate a car chase to pursue other criminals, much like in [[GTA San Andreas]], which heavily detracts realism. | {{Gripe}}Cops do not initiate a car chase to pursue other criminals, much like in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]], which heavily detracts realism. | ||
:{{Rebut}} Actually cops do initiate car chases, just not as frequently. Not only can they do that, but they can also arrest unlawful pedestrians and put them in a nearby cop car. GTA IV is more realistic compared to San Andreas, by the way. | :{{Rebut}} Actually cops do initiate car chases, just not as frequently. Not only can they do that, but they can also arrest unlawful pedestrians and put them in a nearby cop car. GTA IV is more realistic compared to San Andreas, by the way. | ||
::{{Gripe}}But I don't see other criminals driving and performing drive-bys to cops while being chased. All they do is peerform foot pursuit and catch a criminal only. This pulls realism away. | ::{{Gripe}}But I don't see other criminals driving and performing drive-bys to cops while being chased. All they do is peerform foot pursuit and catch a criminal only. This pulls realism away. | ||
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::{{Rebut}} Not true, you can see cars being jacked in parts of Tudor. It's rare, but it happens. | ::{{Rebut}} Not true, you can see cars being jacked in parts of Tudor. It's rare, but it happens. | ||
:::{{Gripe}}Yeah. Completely rare. been in Tudor, stood there and watched. no criminals ever carjack vehicles. Lacks realism. | :::{{Gripe}}Yeah. Completely rare. been in Tudor, stood there and watched. no criminals ever carjack vehicles. Lacks realism. | ||
::::{{Rebut}}What if you had an expensive car and some carjackers jacked you? That happened to me in [[GTA III]] and [[GTA Liberty City Stories]] a lot. It was very annoying. | ::::{{Rebut}}What if you had an expensive car and some carjackers jacked you? That happened to me in [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]] and [[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories|GTA Liberty City Stories]] a lot. It was very annoying. | ||
::::{{Rebut}} Yes they do. I've watched it happen while I was stopping traffic to do my own carjacking. They broke my lights, as well. | ::::{{Rebut}} Yes they do. I've watched it happen while I was stopping traffic to do my own carjacking. They broke my lights, as well. | ||
[[Rebut]] In GTA Vice City, I was in a pizza stack with a Fire Truck outside, some guy stole it. I did watch a guy steal a car in Bohan ONCE. | [[Rebut]] In GTA Vice City, I was in a pizza stack with a Fire Truck outside, some guy stole it. I did watch a guy steal a car in Bohan ONCE. | ||
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{{Gripe}} Why can't you just lock the dang doors! | {{Gripe}} Why can't you just lock the dang doors! | ||
{{Rebut}} 1st if the cops are shooting at you ONLY IF YOU TRY TO RUN. 2nd lockable doors should go on the GTA:V Wishlist, or [[GTA:IV Vehicle Gripes]] | {{Rebut}} 1st if the cops are shooting at you ONLY IF YOU TRY TO RUN. 2nd lockable doors should go on the GTA:V Wishlist, or [[GTA IV Gripes/Vehicles|GTA: IV Vehicle Gripes]] | ||
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{{Gripe}}You cannot perform a hand-to-hand combat against an officer. Niko is forced to raise his hands up at gunpoint, thus halting the combat engagement. Also, if you shoot an officer, you'd end up havin a 3-star wanted level and will have the cop cars swarm in on you. | {{Gripe}}You cannot perform a hand-to-hand combat against an officer. Niko is forced to raise his hands up at gunpoint, thus halting the combat engagement. Also, if you shoot an officer, you'd end up havin a 3-star wanted level and will have the cop cars swarm in on you. |