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Sorry for the downpour of questions. I just want to get fully immersed in this wiki. If your only 19 years old and you started playing GTA games in the 90's, does that mean you started plating when you were around 10 years old?
Sorry for the downpour of questions. I just want to get fully immersed in this wiki. If your only 19 years old and you started playing GTA games in the 90's, does that mean you started plating when you were around 10 years old?


:This wiki isn't just me, it's the entire community. But I certainly wasn't playing GTA in the 90s. Don't forget that [[GTA 1]] was only released in 1997. I think I first played GTA 1 when I was around 14. Those games ''were'' suitable for those ages, because it was just driving and shooting, and the storyline was almost invisible. From GTA III onwards it becomes unsuitable. Vice City I got at 15 I think - given that drugs are quite prevalent in the storyline I wouldn't go much younger. But GTASA and GTA IV are definitely 15+ at least in my opinion. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:This wiki isn't just me, it's the entire community. But I certainly wasn't playing GTA in the 90s. Don't forget that [[Grand Theft Auto 1|GTA 1]] was only released in 1997. I think I first played GTA 1 when I was around 14. Those games ''were'' suitable for those ages, because it was just driving and shooting, and the storyline was almost invisible. From GTA III onwards it becomes unsuitable. Vice City I got at 15 I think - given that drugs are quite prevalent in the storyline I wouldn't go much younger. But GTASA and GTA IV are definitely 15+ at least in my opinion. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


== Gboyers, How did you? ==
== Gboyers, How did you? ==
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:It's a nice idea, but I'm not sure it is as simple as that. Firstly, most discussions never really end. Some things are discussed, and some things are explained, but there's no 'conclusion' as such. Even if there is a conclusion, it may continue being discussed (rather than being cut-off by what you propose). Secondly, there may be dispute as to what the conclusion was - what if people still disagree after the discussion? The example you give has a very definite answer (where Rockstar give the answer), but that almost never happens (there is nobody on this wiki officially representing Rockstar, although we know they do visit). Also, a short question-answer discussion doesn't need a summary (that would double the length of the discussion), so there would need to be guidelines for the use of something like that.
:It's a nice idea, but I'm not sure it is as simple as that. Firstly, most discussions never really end. Some things are discussed, and some things are explained, but there's no 'conclusion' as such. Even if there is a conclusion, it may continue being discussed (rather than being cut-off by what you propose). Secondly, there may be dispute as to what the conclusion was - what if people still disagree after the discussion? The example you give has a very definite answer (where Rockstar give the answer), but that almost never happens (there is nobody on this wiki officially representing Rockstar, although we know they do visit). Also, a short question-answer discussion doesn't need a summary (that would double the length of the discussion), so there would need to be guidelines for the use of something like that.
:What might be a good idea is having long discussions collapse (like [[:Template:GTA]] does when it is included onto a page, like [[GTA IV]]), replacing itself with a box like ''"this section refers to XYZ, click here to show the full discussion"''. If there is a definite answer (where someone asks a question, rather than disputes something) then that could be added into that box. That way, even if the conclusion is something like: ''"No consensus was reached, so both possible neighbourhoods have been listed"''. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 20:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:What might be a good idea is having long discussions collapse (like [[:Template:GTA]] does when it is included onto a page, like [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]]), replacing itself with a box like ''"this section refers to XYZ, click here to show the full discussion"''. If there is a definite answer (where someone asks a question, rather than disputes something) then that could be added into that box. That way, even if the conclusion is something like: ''"No consensus was reached, so both possible neighbourhoods have been listed"''. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 20:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


:::I see your point about the discussions not really ending, and agree with your thoughts about the collapsing. --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez|LuisFernandoLopez]] 20:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I see your point about the discussions not really ending, and agree with your thoughts about the collapsing. --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez|LuisFernandoLopez]] 20:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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Um there dosen't seem to be anything that writes out the acts compleatly. By the way do you want me to write the show under the charecters article (eg i write Klienmans act under his article) or on the official [[Perestroika]] page?
Um there dosen't seem to be anything that writes out the acts compleatly. By the way do you want me to write the show under the charecters article (eg i write Klienmans act under his article) or on the official [[Perestroika]] page?


:Sorry, I just linked so that you could check (wasn't sure whether you had found that page or not). If you're writing out the act completely (like a [[Ice Cold Killa/Transcript|transcript]]), do it on their individual pages - we don't want the main Perestroika page getting too cluttered. Have fun - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, I just linked so that you could check (wasn't sure whether you had found that page or not). If you're writing out the act completely (like a Transcript), do it on their individual pages - we don't want the main Perestroika page getting too cluttered. Have fun - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


==Images & Category Tab==
==Images & Category Tab==
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Hi again. I checked the images with Internet Explorer and it works fine with that. About the category tab, yes i mean that at the bottom of the page, it dissappeared since 3 weeks for me, and also I can't add categories if I'm not in the "page editor". --[[User:DT-boy|DT-boy]] 05:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi again. I checked the images with Internet Explorer and it works fine with that. About the category tab, yes i mean that at the bottom of the page, it dissappeared since 3 weeks for me, and also I can't add categories if I'm not in the "page editor". --[[User:DT-boy|DT-boy]] 05:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:UPDATE: The category tab is back! --[[User:DT-boy|DT-boy]] 06:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:UPDATE: The category tab is back! --[[User:DT-boy|DT-boy]] 06:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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::Ok I removed it, It just keeps it from one wiki to another and its SOOOOO anoying how it does that. Ok I figured it out now thatnks! Oh and sorry about the sig, I will change it on my wiki. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span> 06:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::Ok I removed it, It just keeps it from one wiki to another and its SOOOOO anoying how it does that. Ok I figured it out now thatnks! Oh and sorry about the sig, I will change it on my wiki. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span> 06:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
[[User:Fox Protector|Fox Protector]] 19:21, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Hey, how do i change the title of my page?
== [[User:Lasolas]] ==
Just thought of bringing this to your attention. Been noticing some bizarre edits from [[User:Lasolas]] lately. Most of them are [[Special:Contributions/Lasolas|related to blanking of info]] on [[Terry Thorpe]] and replacement of some of these cut pages with Bill Gates' name for some reason (given the narrow subject matter, Microsoft, the Xbox 360 and TLAD, it could be a personal thing related to the TLAD). If he strikes a third time, we should know what to do. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:45, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for that, but feel free to deal with it yourself. If there is a problem, you should communicate with the member. If the user continues to damage the wiki, you should suspend them, for as long as you deem necessary. A short suspension (3 days) is useful for people to calm down after a fight, argument or edit war; somewhat longer is useful to deter people who get a kick out of randomly editing/emptying pages; and infinite for persisitent spammers or those causing a lot of trouble. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:06, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. I'll keep an eye on 'em for a while. And thanks for helping with delivering the edit warning to him. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 11:09, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
He is still spamming - I am reverting his edits now.  '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 13:38, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
:His obsession with [[Terry Thorpe]] continues, he has now removed his name from the [[Alderney]] page and spammed the [[Flying Rats]] page. Thanks to [[User:Masterpogihaha|Masterpogihaha]] for helping me revert them, I sent him anopther message to help chill him out. I hope it works. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]'''''
== RE: Dealing with Vandals ==
Alright. I'll keep the No Shrines for Vandals policy in mind. [[User:Masterpogihaha|Masterpogihaha]] 23:18, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
:Ditto, I have never heard of this policy, but I will learn it from now on. Well no one has edited for a few hours so I think I will busy myself reading the whole [[Policy]] page. Seeing as im bored. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 13:21, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
== Removing /wiki from URL ==
Hi Gboyers. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Wikia is working on a SEO (Search Engine Optimization) project to test the effect of removing /wiki from all of our URLs. So http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Mothra would become http://godzilla.wikia.com/Mothra. This was suggested to us by someone at Google. There are a few things that we're hoping to see:
* There should be better click-through from search results. People tend to click on shorter, less complex URLs.
* We're hoping to see some improvement in the search rankings, because Google will see the keyword ("Mothra") closer to the beginning of the URL and therefore more important.
* Also, it will be easier for people to link to our pages, which might increase the number of links that we get.
Obviously, all of the old links will still work. Links and bookmarks with /wiki will be automatically redirected to the new URL. We're testing it out on 4 wikis, with this wiki being one of them, starting on Thursday of this week (Oct 15). We'll track this over the next month, and see if we get the results we're looking for. If we do, then we'll make this happen sitewide.
Please point this out to any other active admins and leave any comments or feedback here. Thanks. [[User:JoePlay|<b>JoePlay</b>]]<staff /> ([[User talk:JoePlay|<font size="1">talk</font>]]) 23:35, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds good, thanks for letting me know. Keep me in the loop. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:46, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
== Businesses ==
I have another question dealing with businesses in GTA San Andreas. Are [[Carniceria Panaderia]], and Flores Mini Mart the same business or are they seperate but share the same building?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 00:20, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
:Is that just a building that you can't go in? We don't need individual articles for every single one of those buildings. There's no point, as there is only 1 sentence we can fit on that page, and nobody would ever look for that information. It would be best just put in a list on one "Shops in Los Santos" page or similar. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:40, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
How do you make a table?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 11:06, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
:We do have a [[Help]] section you know. Try [[Help:Tables]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:10, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
== Template  ==
Can I make a template for protagonists/ antagonists?-- [[User:Blaff 60|Blaff 60]] 19:42, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
:If you think it's useful, sure. But {{template|gta}} has all the protagonists, and that should be on every protagonists' page. I don't think an antagonist one would be massively useful, but what would be good is something like {{template|gtaiv characters}} which lists all the main characters. That could be sorted by mission, island, DLC, gang, whatever. Feel free to have a play with it. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 21:50, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks.--Blaff 60 07:55, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
== File status ==
Hi. I want to upload [http://gta.wikia.com/File:SA-counties.jpg this] file (which was created by you) to Russian GTA Wiki. Are you ok with it? What license it has? [[User:VTOL|VTOL]] 13:53, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
:That is fine - you may upload that image to the Russian GTA Wiki. However, on the image page, please provide a link to the [[:File:SA-counties.jpg|original image page]]. Thanks for asking first - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 14:50, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
:: Thank you! [[User:VTOL|VTOL]] 15:03, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
== Asking for something... ==
Hi! Umm..I will be making a template in Vehicles of GTASA and VCS. Is it ok with you? I just wanna ask a permission first before I make before I do something wrong...-Blaff 60 11:50, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, be bold. Go ahead and do it. Everything you do can be easily reversed, so there's no harm in trying it out. This wiki belongs the community who write it, we're just here to make things run smoothly. Just make sure we don't have it already! We have {{template|vehicles}}, {{template|gtavc vehicles}} and {{template|gtaiii vehicles}}, but not SA or VCS. You should use those templates as the basis for your new ones. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:32, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
Thanx Gboyers!-Blaff 60 15:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
== Blocking ==
i just thought about blocking, couldn't someone just create another account, or does it block the IP address? just wondering.[[User:Grandtheftautodude|Grandtheftautodude]] 11:44, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
p.s i'm not a admin i just read about user:Lasolas above and thought
:There are many very effective options available to our staff to deal with harmful users. For obvious reasons I won't discuss our security procedures, nor tell you how to get round them. :) [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:07, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
it's ok i understand but is there a cheat for the  infernus as many videos on youtube say there is
p.s i've subbed grandtheftwiki youtube account
:Why not look at the [[Cheats]] pages, or if you don't believe them, ask on the [[Forum]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 18:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
thanks anyway. [[User:Grandtheftautodude|Grandtheftautodude]] 18:44, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
== Admin ==
Gboyers how do I become admin. Do you have to have a certain amount of edits? I have 41 edits at the time of writing this but I joined in august.
also if I do become an admin member can you send a list of people you want blocked from this site send me a message on my talkpage [[User:Andrew nicholson|Andrew nicholson]] 17:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Firstly, we have clear [[Promotion]] procedures. There isn't a minimum number of posts, but you would need to be able to prove you are a respected part of this community, and that you know the wiki completely inside-out, which is pretty much impossible with only a few edits. However, you can still be a very valuable membre of the community without necessarily having a delete button - you can fix other peoples edits, [[CT|mark stuff]] for deletion, and complete any of the hundreds of [[Tasks]] that need doing. As for blocking users, I'm sure if I wanted them blocked I could do it myself. However, we don't base our sanctions on what I want, it's what's in the best interest of this wiki and it's community. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 18:32, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
== Hello Gboyers ==
Hey I only have a small thing to say, I did not spot anything on the Police Maverick page about how the Rotor Blade Count Differs in the GTA III era, and the GTA IV era, but if '''YOU''' could do something about that it would be cool. Thanks a million. P.S, I am 14, I have played GTA for a real long while and it has not changed anything about me, I think its just the media coming up with crap about GTA just because they have nothing else to put on the headlines. (Just stating how I think it is) Thanks, [[User:Hlaalu_Guard]].
:That is probably because it is already mentioned on the [[Maverick]] page. It's kinda redundant to repeat that.--[[User:Thescarydude|Thescarydude]] 19:15, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
Actually, [[Police Maverick]] already has that on the page: ''"Like the Maverick, the Police Maverick originally featured two rotor blades, but was modified in GTA IV to feature four. "''. And even if it wasn't already mentioned, '''you''' have the power to hit the "Edit" button and add it in yourself. Staff are only here to keep the wiki running smoothly, and you have the same powers as any of us, unless something goes wrong (which is when we step in). [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 19:38, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
== Mexico ==
Don't Delete Mexico. It is the first download for The Ballad of Gay Tony, I will be upset if you did this. You will ending up blocked, [[User:Declansimons|Declansimons]] ([[User talk:Declansimons|Talk]]) 09:35, 7 November, 2009
== safehouses in the ballad of gay tony article ==
can you remove the red linked category from this article: http://gta.wikia.com/Safehouses_in_The_Ballad_of_Gay_Tony?. [[User:Grandtheftautodude|Grandtheftautodude]] 13:39, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
== Gta template ==
in the main page, the main GTA template to be exact, there is no Characters in TBOGT, weapons in TBOGT and vehicles in TBOGT, maybe someone will add this to the main GTA template.--Blaff 60 20:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
== How to put a page in stub ==
There are some articles on this wiki that provide a very little information and needs a lot to be added on them. I want to put some articles in stub. How can I do so?
:To mark an article as a stub, just put {{template|stub}} at the bottom. To view a list of stubs, look at [[:Category:Stub]]. There are other [[CT|Cleanup Templates]] as well. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:23, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
== Gotta question ==
Where would I put a name if I want to nominate someone in the promotion page?--Blaff 60 21:22, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:Suggest your nomination on [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:Promotion]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 21:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks.--Blaff 60 21:46, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
== Enough... ==
Enough in racism comments or suggestions, it is very intimidating to everyone and may damage someone's reputation. Don't change someone's comments to racism marks or something, this may end up to blocking accounts. Just be kind to everyone and don't add anything bad or annoy someone.--Blaff 60 22:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, is this directed at me? MarkAldred was a suspended user who had a personal grudge against me for suspending his original account. I will remove his abusive/racist remarks. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 22:42, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry I didn't put someone in it. I said this message to those guys who says or writes racism marks on your talk page, sorry.--Blaff 60 22:48, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
==Consistency==
Consistency is one of the policies on the Wiki and it is something that people ignore, so I have been going back to renaming the character images, as I had been doing before. The other, 'more useful', things are more likely to be done by other members of staff. It is also something I have no problem in doing at the moment and is a project big enough to keep me going for quite a while, as it is something I would eventually spread to all/most images across the site. And thank you for the welcome back, just started to play GTA San Andreas again and remembered how awesome the series used to be. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:20, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
:Just to say that you might want to think about new staff members. I've updated the Staff page and moved a number of staff to the inactive list. Not sure on who would be suitable, having not been around for a while. As the contributions, over 13,500 so far. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:39, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
::I'm glad to the site doing so well after a lot of work has been put in by the community. Another quick question, is there anything we can do about the Social Profiles? They look awful and people tend to message me more than edit my talk page, which makes it difficult to easily see who has sent the message. The way they used to look was fine, so I don't know whether we can get them back that way or not. As for the edits thing, remember: quality over quantity. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:53, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
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