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{{Gripe}}I would like to see a fairly large Army Base, Okay I know that NYC has no Army Base but it has to have a National Guard Depot at least. If there was one I hope there would be APCs and an armory, but it can only be acessed once you get through a certain mission.
{{Gripe}}I would like to see a fairly large Army Base, Okay I know that NYC has no Army Base but it has to have a National Guard Depot at least. If there was one I hope there would be APCs and an armory, but it can only be acessed once you get through a certain mission.
:{{Rebut}}Having army chasing down a single person in NYC is WAY TOO UNREALISTIC. I'm glad the army's gone in GTA IV.
:{{Rebut}}Having army chasing down a single person in NYC is WAY TOO UNREALISTIC. I'm glad the army's gone in GTA IV.
::{{Rebut}} NYC Has plenty of Military bases, first off the United Nations building in Manhattan (which is featured in the game) and theres sub docks for the navy in Hell's Kitchen and other parts. Sure theres no Military activity in the game but in real life I dont think the NG has ever been called to take down one guy, thats what the SWAT (NoOSE) is for.--[[User:Gerry Spring|Gerry Spring]] 13:06, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
::{{Rebut}} NYC Has plenty of Military bases, first off the United Nations building in Manhattan (which is featured in the game) and theres sub docks for the navy in Hell's Kitchen and other parts. Sure there's no Military activity in the game but in real life I dont think the NG has ever been called to take down one guy, that's what the SWAT (NOOSE) is for.--[[User:Gerry Spring|Gerry Spring]] 13:06, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
:::{{Rebut}}LOL, the UN is a military base?
:::{{Rebut}}LOL, the UN is a military base?
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{{Gripe}}You don't get to select foods to eat at [[Burger Shot]] or at [[Cluckin' Bell]]. And both of the burgers looks exactly the same. No difference about it. A dissapointing realism. You don't even get to try and eat the Heart Stopper to see Niko get a heart attack.
{{Gripe}}You don't get to select foods to eat at [[Burger Shot]] or at [[Cluckin' Bell]]. And both of the burgers looks exactly the same. No difference about it. A disappointing realism. You don't even get to try and eat the Heart Stopper to see Niko get a heart attack.
:{{Rebut}}I don't think Niko really cares for what he consumes, since the food in Liberty City is probably a damn sight better than the chow he ate in the Army and on the merchant vessels he served on.  An assortment of food items at a single restaurant had no tangible benefit in GTA:SA, so I'm sure Rockstar learned from their mistakes and kept it simple.
:{{Rebut}}I don't think Niko really cares for what he consumes, since the food in Liberty City is probably a damn sight better than the chow he ate in the Army and on the merchant vessels he served on.  An assortment of food items at a single restaurant had no tangible benefit in GTA:SA, so I'm sure Rockstar learned from their mistakes and kept it simple.
::{{Gripe}}Yep. They kept it simple, so R* wants show players that they don't even want to increase the aspect of realism. The selection of foods would be nice, I mean what's so hard about adding that feature anyway? They've done that in GTA: SA, so they can't just leave it out for no apparent reason. If they are promoting the "Heart Stopper" on TV, then why not add it in the game? It would be funny to see Niko eat the "Heart Stopper" and then get a heart attack. Otheriwse, there's no realism without food selection.
::{{Gripe}}Yep. They kept it simple, so R* wants show players that they don't even want to increase the aspect of realism. The selection of foods would be nice, I mean what's so hard about adding that feature anyway? They've done that in GTA: SA, so they can't just leave it out for no apparent reason. If they are promoting the "Heart Stopper" on TV, then why not add it in the game? It would be funny to see Niko eat the "Heart Stopper" and then get a heart attack. Otherwise, there's no realism without food selection.
{{Gripe}}I see your point in realism when it comes to food. But do you think Rockstar wanted players to focus on food, rather than the other fun things you can do. Possibly a reason why selections of food were not availbale, as opposed to San Andreas, was becuase eating was a method of regaining health in SA. And since R* focused on realism, they figured eating wasn't a realistic way to gain health. There are health packs and street vendors as another source to fix your health, or by means of cheats. Last thing, how fun would it be to sit in burger shot for an hour and eat?
{{Gripe}}I see your point in realism when it comes to food. But do you think Rockstar wanted players to focus on food, rather than the other fun things you can do. Possibly a reason why selections of food were not available, as opposed to San Andreas, was because eating was a method of regaining health in SA. And since R* focused on realism, they figured eating wasn't a realistic way to gain health. There are health packs and street vendors as another source to fix your health, or by means of cheats. Last thing, how fun would it be to sit in burger shot for an hour and eat?


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{{Gripe}}The [[Francis International Airport]] has a glitch and inside the building, there aren't any luggages, cafés  conveyor belts, seats... nothing. It's not realistic, unfortunately.
{{Gripe}}The [[Francis International Airport, Dukes|Francis International Airport]] has a glitch and inside the building, there aren't any luggages, cafés  conveyor belts, seats... nothing. It's not realistic, unfortunately.
:{{Rebut}} It's a glitch! You were not supposed to get inside in the first place!
:{{Rebut}} It's a glitch! You were not supposed to get inside in the first place!
::{{Gripe}}Exactly! That's what degrades realism in the game!
::{{Gripe}}Exactly! That's what degrades realism in the game!
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:::::{{Rebut}} That's all there is to do in the Airport. Kinda pointless, don't you think? Three (two really, as Hidden Packages are replaced with Pigeons, and they're not inside) things doesn't warrant designing a place as large as the Airport is.
:::::{{Rebut}} That's all there is to do in the Airport. Kinda pointless, don't you think? Three (two really, as Hidden Packages are replaced with Pigeons, and they're not inside) things doesn't warrant designing a place as large as the Airport is.


::::::{{Rebut}} First off, you can't complain that Rockstar didnt let you walk around in a full interior to an airport that you arent supposed to be in in the first place, null gripe. Second off hidden packages arent even in GTA IV, and there are enough health packs around the city. Your suggestion to a shootout mission in an airport raises the question "What would happen if we made a mission about a shootout in an airport" which they did twice already in The Lost and Damned, and that raised alot of 9/11 controversy. Think about it for a second, the airport is the way it is and is still very much interactive, so dont complain.--[[User:Gerry Spring|Gerry Spring]] 13:20, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
::::::{{Rebut}} First off, you can't complain that Rockstar didn't let you walk around in a full interior to an airport that you aren't supposed to be in in the first place, null gripe. Second off hidden packages aren't even in GTA IV, and there are enough health packs around the city. Your suggestion to a shootout mission in an airport raises the question "What would happen if we made a mission about a shootout in an airport" which they did twice already in The Lost and Damned, and that raised a lot of 9/11 controversy. Think about it for a second, the airport is the way it is and is still very much interactive, so don't complain.--[[User:Gerry Spring|Gerry Spring]] 13:20, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
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{{Gripe}}Poor Ammu-nation is gone? Somehow I dont think all the gun shops in New York are dank
{{Gripe}}Poor Ammu-nation is gone? Somehow I don't think all the gun shops in New York are dank
little underground shops. Not to mention how I miss the Ammu-nation themesong!
little underground shops. Not to mention how I miss the Ammu-nation theme song!
:{{Rebut}}It's explained in-game that both the purchase and vending of arms are illegal in Liberty City, so all weapons and ammo have to be purchased illegally (dank, underground  shops.)
:{{Rebut}}It's explained in-game that both the purchase and vending of arms are illegal in Liberty City, so all weapons and ammo have to be purchased illegally (dank, underground  shops.)
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{{Gripe}}Helicopters can't be saved at any of the safehouses, nor are there helipads to land them on.
{{Gripe}}Helicopters can't be saved at any of the safehouses, nor are there helipads to land them on.
:{{Rebut}}look down when flying in an helicopter, some buildings do have helipads.
:{{Rebut}}look down when flying in an helicopter, some buildings do have helipads.
And there are helipads in  [[Francis International Airport]], Just look around.
And there are helipads in  [[Francis International Airport, Dukes|Francis International Airport]], Just look around.
:{{Rebut}}How many NYC apartment complexes have landing pads?
:{{Rebut}}How many NYC apartment complexes have landing pads?
::{{Gripe}} Brucie's does, you should be able to buy sweet places like his
::{{Gripe}} Brucie's does, you should be able to buy sweet places like his