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{{Gripe}}Friends often call to do things at inconvenient times and are often on the other side of the city.
{{Gripe}}Friends often call to do things at inconvenient times and are often on the other side of the city.
:{{Rebut}}Choose the sleep mode on your phone.
:{{Rebut}}Choose the sleep mode on your phone.
::{{Gripe}} The sleep mode does help quite a bit.  However, the friend system does get rather annoying when you're trying to do missions and sleep mode gets turned off.  The feature is a decent start, but it definitely needs some overhauling for the next game.  Less frequent calls, offering to meet you some place or maybe picking you up instead of you always driving them around, more places to go (Liberty City only has two places to see a show?), more benefits for keeping constant contact, mini-missions that occur while out and about, etc.


{{Gripe}}Friends don't give you enough time to get to their location before they become impatient.
{{Gripe}}Friends don't give you enough time to get to their location before they become impatient.
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{{Gripe}}You can't evade or outrun your wanted level in a helicopter.
{{Gripe}}You can't evade or outrun your wanted level in a helicopter.
:{{Rebut}} It's rather difficult to run away when everybody in the city can see you flying 200 meters up in a helicopter. Don't you think?
:{{Rebut}} It's rather difficult to run away when everybody in the city can see you flying 200 meters up in a helicopter. Don't you think?
::{{Rebut}}You can evade and outrun wanted levels when they are low (ie. 1 or 2 stars) as not as many police are searching for you.
::{{Rebut}}You can evade and outrun wanted levels when they are low (ie. 1 or 2 stars) as not as many police are searching for you.
 
:::{{Rebut}} There is a way, albeit kind of a cheap one.  If you have Playboy X's safehouse, you can fly low over the roof and bail out onto the balcony.  Then you can run inside and save your game, which should clear your wanted level.


{{Gripe}}The camera angle is too low with no way to change it, I spend all my driving time holding UP, same as San Andreas.
{{Gripe}}The camera angle is too low with no way to change it, I spend all my driving time holding UP, same as San Andreas.
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{{Gripe}}No matter how hard players try to get away from the police's radius, cops seem to spawn near the player's vehicle. Hiding is nearly impossible, even on secluded areas.
{{Gripe}}No matter how hard players try to get away from the police's radius, cops seem to spawn near the player's vehicle. Hiding is nearly impossible, even on secluded areas.
:{{Rebut}} Rockstar, I believe, was trying to make the game more realistic. It's like that in real life, too.
:{{Rebut}} Rockstar, I believe, was trying to make the game more realistic. It's like that in real life, too.
::{{Rebut}}Yes, especially in Star Junction, there are more cops in that area around than others. Plus the police ofcourse dispatches more cop cars around the radius to search for you.
::{{Rebut}}Yes, especially in Star Junction, there are more cops in that area around than others. Plus the police of course dispatches more cop cars around the radius to search for you.


{{Gripe}}You can longer respond to random comments either positively or negatively.
{{Gripe}}You can longer respond to random comments either positively or negatively.
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{{Gripe}}You must keep your 'friends' happy to retain their special perks. It would have been preferable to unlock their abilities once and then be left to the player to decide whether they wish to continue the 'friendship'.
{{Gripe}}You must keep your 'friends' happy to retain their special perks. It would have been preferable to unlock their abilities once and then be left to the player to decide whether they wish to continue the 'friendship'.
:{{Rebut}} Don't you have to keep your friends happy in real life?
:{{Rebut}} Don't you have to keep your friends happy in real life?
::{{Gripe}} But you don't drive them all over town like a soccer mom, especially if you are one of the most in demand hitmen in the city. Roman owns a car service business, yet needs to be picked up and dropped off everytime he wants to do anyting. The friends feature becomes irritating because it lacks realism.
::{{Gripe}} But you don't drive them all over town like a soccer mom, especially if you are one of the most in demand hitmen in the city. Roman owns a car service business, yet needs to be picked up and dropped off everytime he wants to do anything. The friends feature becomes irritating because it lacks realism.


{{Gripe}}Street Gang-Banging and generally street gang-related missions have been dramatically reduced, means, no point in shooting other gang members.
{{Gripe}}Street Gang-Banging and generally street gang-related missions have been dramatically reduced, means, no point in shooting other gang members.
:{{Rebut}} Since Niko is not exactly in one of those 'gangs', I would see no point in earning anything for the deaths of gang members.
:{{Rebut}} Since Niko is not exactly in one of those 'gangs', I would see no point in earning anything for the deaths of gang members.
::{{Gripe}} The 5 families are crucial to the storyline. Niko is involved heavily with gangland violence in the story, yet outside of missions there is no evidence of any gangland tension. Once again this detracts from the realism of the game. For example; Niko kills 10+ members of the Pavano family, yet there is no consequence what so ever. He can walk into the same mob owned car dealership he has just blown up hours before and nobody recognises him. This badly affects the attempted realism in other areas of the game.   
::{{Gripe}} The 5 families are crucial to the storyline. Niko is involved heavily with gangland violence in the story, yet outside of missions there is no evidence of any gangland tension. Once again this detracts from the realism of the game. For example; Niko kills 10+ members of the Pavano family, yet there is no consequence what so ever. He can walk into the same mob owned car dealership he has just blown up hours before and nobody recognizes him. This badly affects the attempted realism in other areas of the game.   


{{Gripe}}Only 9 street races available and difficult to access them through the phone system.
{{Gripe}}Only 9 street races available and difficult to access them through the phone system.
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:::{{Rebut}}Don't bother, kill yourself, get into 6 star chases, die, give some money to the hospital. Buy the rest of the clothes, enjoy your taxis and trains.  
:::{{Rebut}}Don't bother, kill yourself, get into 6 star chases, die, give some money to the hospital. Buy the rest of the clothes, enjoy your taxis and trains.  
::::{{Gripe}}There is no need to buy guns because you can find them so easily.
::::{{Gripe}}There is no need to buy guns because you can find them so easily.
:::::{{Gripe}} Given that entire storyline is underpinned by the pursuit of money, from the minute Niko gets off the boat to the deal or revenge option at the end. The fact that money plays such a small part in the game outside of the cut scenes hurts the games attempt to provide a realistic experience.  
:::::{{Gripe}} Given that entire storyline is underpinned by the pursuit of money, from the minute Niko gets off the boat to the deal or revenge option at the end. The fact that money plays such a small part in the game outside of the cut scenes hurts the games attempt to provide a realistic experience.
::::::{{Gripe}} There really does need to be more to do with the money in the game.  Buying more safehouses, outfitting them with internet access, more clothing shops, more shows to see, parking spaces to keep cars in, revenue-generating businesses, etc.  


{{Gripe}}No parachute.
{{Gripe}}No parachute.
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