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{{Gripe}}Cops somehow manage to stay alive even after multiple gunshots, and their weapons do more damage to the player. | {{Gripe}}Cops somehow manage to stay alive even after multiple gunshots, and their weapons do more damage to the player. | ||
:{{Rebut}}Some of them have body armor. As members of a police force they would have superior weapons and training. | :{{Rebut}}Some of them have body armor. As members of a police force they would have superior weapons and training. | ||
{{Gripe}}I don't think beat cops wear body armor, and their weapons are exactly the same as the ones the player can use. | ::{{Gripe}}I don't think beat cops wear body armor, and their weapons are exactly the same as the ones the player can use. | ||
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{{Gripe}}There aren't as many different clothing styles and options as there used to be, especially in San Andreas and theres very few "silly" options like mad hats and such. | {{Gripe}}There aren't as many different clothing styles and options as there used to be, especially in San Andreas and theres very few "silly" options like mad hats and such. | ||
:{{Rebut}} At least there are some! Compare GTA IV to its predecessors, except San Andreas, in terms of customizing your pro/antagonist. Also, GTA isn't exactly a 'silly' game. | :{{Rebut}} At least there are some! Compare GTA IV to its predecessors, except San Andreas, in terms of customizing your pro/antagonist. Also, GTA isn't exactly a 'silly' game. | ||
{{Gripe}}Actually GTA was always a silly and unrealistic series, and that was what made it fun. Flying airplanes despite having no training, wielding miniguns, surviving car crashes...that was the best part of GTA, and GTA IV just removes all that. Its a bold step, but I guarantee GTA IV would be a lot more fun if the police were a lot stupider, unrealistic weapons were brought back and the physics were toned down a lot. | ::{{Gripe}}Actually GTA was always a silly and unrealistic series, and that was what made it fun. Flying airplanes despite having no training, wielding miniguns, surviving car crashes...that was the best part of GTA, and GTA IV just removes all that. Its a bold step, but I guarantee GTA IV would be a lot more fun if the police were a lot stupider, unrealistic weapons were brought back and the physics were toned down a lot. | ||
{{Gripe}}Friends often call to do things at inconvenient times and are often on the other side of the city. | {{Gripe}}Friends often call to do things at inconvenient times and are often on the other side of the city. | ||
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{{Gripe}}No special races that unlock special cars (like Destruction Derby). | {{Gripe}}No special races that unlock special cars (like Destruction Derby). | ||
::{{Rebut}}There are also other mini-games that earn you special vehicles. | ::{{Rebut}}There are also other mini-games that earn you special vehicles. | ||
:::{{Gripe}}Still, it's pathetic that you don't earn special vehicles that you complete side racing missions, like the [[Bloodring Banger]] as well as the [[Dune]] truck. | |||
{{Gripe}}With so little to buy '''Money is worthless'''. | {{Gripe}}With so little to buy '''Money is worthless'''. | ||
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{{Gripe}}Crashing on a motorcycle and bailing out of a car aren't fun anymore, and often result in death. | {{Gripe}}Crashing on a motorcycle and bailing out of a car aren't fun anymore, and often result in death. | ||
:{{Rebut}} | :{{Rebut}}Once more, the game is meant to be more realistic. | ||
::{{Gripe}}But even though you were wearing a helmet, you'd still die from the crash. The game really lacks realistic attempts. | |||
{{Gripe}}You can't order cars from Stevie's garage once the text message missions he gives you are completed. | {{Gripe}}You can't order cars from Stevie's garage once the text message missions he gives you are completed. | ||
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{{Gripe}}Combat is unrealistic and hard to attack people. You'll have to use weapons to kill them instead (not meleé ones). | {{Gripe}}Combat is unrealistic and hard to attack people. You'll have to use weapons to kill them instead (not meleé ones). | ||
:{{Rebut}} Hand-to-hand combat was meant to injure the victim, without killing him. It's useful for missions. | :{{Rebut}}Hand-to-hand combat was meant to injure the victim, without killing him. It's useful for missions. | ||
::{{Gripe}}Still, it's hard to target people you are attacking and it's completely unrealistic while [[GTA SA]] had reaistic hand-to-hand combat moves. | |||
{{Gripe}}During shooting missions, you die very easily by shooters before you even run for cover. Enemies somewhat has great aiming, and [[Body Armor]] is highly recommended for hard missions. | {{Gripe}}During shooting missions, you die very easily by shooters before you even run for cover. Enemies somewhat has great aiming, and [[Body Armor]] is highly recommended for hard missions. | ||
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{{Gripe}}Autosave may not happen all the time. Whenever you complete missions, you are forced to save the game manually instead of having the game to automatically save for you. | {{Gripe}}Autosave may not happen all the time. Whenever you complete missions, you are forced to save the game manually instead of having the game to automatically save for you. | ||
:{{Rebut}} Then try saving manually more often; You'll get used to it. | :{{Rebut}} Then try saving manually more often; You'll get used to it. | ||
::{{Gripe}}It happens the same thing and much worse than the first one. It would have been better if [[Rockstar Games]] would fix this problem, rather than just asking you to save the game yourself too often. | |||
{{Gripe}}You cant fight the cops like in other GTA games. | {{Gripe}}You cant fight the cops like in other GTA games. | ||
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{{Gripe}}When Niko steers the car in any direction, the steering wheel doesn't move at all, which left Rockstar Games no explanation to this problem. | {{Gripe}}When Niko steers the car in any direction, the steering wheel doesn't move at all, which left Rockstar Games no explanation to this problem. | ||
:{{Rebut}}Atleast the car turns. | :{{Rebut}}Atleast the car turns. | ||
::{{Gripe}}But not the steering wheel. It's hardly even realistic to see how the car turns into any direction, but not the steering wheel. | |||
{{Gripe}}Airbags do not deploy on any vehicles when slammed head-on at high speeds. | {{Gripe}}Airbags do not deploy on any vehicles when slammed head-on at high speeds. | ||
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{{Gripe}}There are only 5 residential vehicle parking spaces, which means you are forced to store few of your favorite cars into the parking space, since [[Rockstar Games]] refused to explain why. | {{Gripe}}There are only 5 residential vehicle parking spaces, which means you are forced to store few of your favorite cars into the parking space, since [[Rockstar Games]] refused to explain why. | ||
{{Gripe}}There aren't enough 'realism' vehicles i.e. cement mixers, street sweepers, 'meter maids' etc - although not exactly amazing to look at or drive, they do add that extra touch of realism which would have fitted in with GTA IV's atmosphere perfectly. | {{Gripe}}There aren't enough 'realism' vehicles i.e. cement mixers, street sweepers, 'meter maids' etc - although not exactly amazing to look at or drive, they do add that extra touch of realism which would have fitted in with GTA IV's atmosphere perfectly. | ||
{{Gripe}} You don't even have first person mode (without bug) in trains nor possibility to walk in trains. | {{Gripe}} You don't even have first person mode (without bug) in trains nor possibility to walk in trains. | ||
{{Gripe}}Both the [[Sea Sparrow]] and the [[Leviathan]] helicopters were taken away for no reason whatsoever. Both of them are great which are used to land on water, but why remove them? Both helicopters were awesome. | |||
{{Gripe}}The [[Vortex]] hovercraft was taken away for no reason. It was a great vehicle, so why remove it? | |||
{{Gripe}}The [[BF Injection]] was removed. Just because it's a great vehicle and designed for off-roading, does'nt mean they can remove it for no reason at all. | |||
{{Gripe}}The majority of good cars were removed by [[Rockstar Games]] and they refused to explain why. | |||
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{{Gripe}}Alderney doesn't have any food stores and barely any places of interest, making it a useless area to visit. | {{Gripe}}Alderney doesn't have any food stores and barely any places of interest, making it a useless area to visit. | ||
:{{Rebut}}Strip Club, stunt jumps, pigeons, random peds. | :{{Rebut}}Strip Club, stunt jumps, pigeons, random peds. | ||
::{{Gripe}}It's still a useless area to visit. | ::{{Gripe}}It's still a useless area to visit. Besides, there are'nt any places of interest and there were'nt any shows, bars, restaurants, or even bowling alleys. | ||
{{Gripe}}The Bars is inaccessible because you have to be accompanied by a friend. | {{Gripe}}The Bars is inaccessible because you have to be accompanied by a friend. | ||