Community:GTA IV Gripes: Difference between revisions

{{Gripe}}Minor clothing items are removed during some cut scenes and missions. (glasses, hats)

:{{Rebut}}This can be easily explained by Niko having ''manners''... i.e. he would remove his hat or glasses before speaking with someone.

{{Gripe}}Cars explode for the stupidest and unrealistic reasons, i.e. shooting the window of a car, shooting the roof.

{{Gripe}}Stealth kills as in San Andreas are no longer possible.

:{{Rebut}}You can perform a stealth kill during Final Interview and walk out without a wanted level.

{{Gripe}}Cops somehow manage to stay alive even after multiple gunshots, and their weapons do more damage to the player.

{{Gripe}}You can longer respond to random comments either positively or negatively.

:{{Rebut}}  That was a minor feature, and its removal doesn't affect the game very much.

{{Gripe}}You must keep your 'friends' happy to retain their special perks. It would have been preferable to unlock their abilities once and then be left to the player to decide whether they wish to continue the 'friendship'.

:{{Rebut}} Don't you have to keep your friends happy in real life?

{{Gripe}}Street Gang-Banging and generally street gang-related missions have been dramatically reduced, means, no point in shooting other gang members.

{{Gripe}}Only 9 street races available and difficult to access them through the phone system.

:{{Rebut}}GTA is not exactly a 'racing game'. The racing missions are practically just mini games, save for when they affect the storyline.

{{Gripe}}No special races that unlock special cars (like Destruction Derby).

:{{Rebut}} there are also, more or less, no aircrafts to jump out of at high altitudes.

::{{Rebut}}Plus the s'shoot' was quite boring to use anways.

{{Gripe}}Cops manage to shoot your tires out, even if you're going 100mph.

{{Gripe}}You can't order cars from Stevie's garage once the text message missions he gives you are completed.

:{{Rebut}} That function was specifically for the aforementioned missions.

{{Gripe}}Combat is unrealistic and hard to attack people. You'll have to use weapons to kill them instead (not meleé ones).

{{Gripe}}The majority of the good cheats are gone (like chaos, citizens with weapons, cars fly away with hits etc etc etc).

:{{Rebut}}Rockstar never releases cheats they are found by the players most likely the same cheats are there, they just haven't been found yet.

{{Gripe}}There are only 2 pairs of glasses in the whole game, and both of them are ugly.

::{{Gripe}}They are. Both are big "owl" style glasses from the 90s. No actual sunglasses or anything.

:::{{Rebut}}I don't think that R* made this game just for the sake of different clothings you can buy for Niko.

{{Gripe}}Whenever you crash you go flying out of the windsheild.

{{Gripe}}There is no [[Tank]] in this game, nor are there airplanes.

:{{Rebut}}Tanks would be unrealistic, as the armed forces would not send a tank into New York City after a single man.  Airplanes would also be unrealistic because air-travel around New York City is extremely restricted, plus there's really not enough area to ''need'' air-travel.

{{Gripe}}There are no car mods or even simply choosing your paint color.

{{Gripe}}There are fewer cars in the game compared to San Andreas, and no fixed-wing aircraft available to the player.  Even though the city is smaller than [[GTA San Andreas]], the designers of the game shouldn't have lost more stuff than they put in, that includes Vehicles and Planes. Just a general mistake on behalf of rockstar

:{{Rebut}}No there are more cars in GTA IV then in San Andreas. More choices.

{{Gripe}}How the Voodoo was changed.

{{Gripe}}Airbags do not deploy on any vehicles when slammed head-on at high speeds.

:{{Rebut}}That just brings out the fun of the new physics engine, seeing Niko fly out of the car. Plus I don't really think that it really has to be this realistic. It would just ruin the fact that this is a GAME.

{{Gripe}}You can't attach trailers in the back of your truck like in [[GTA San Andreas]].

:{{Rebut}}What would you do exactly with a trailer on the back of your truck?

::{{Gripe}}Gas Tank trailers, Containers, Car Transporters, etc.

{{Gripe}}Brucie's helicopter is useless. It would have been better if you could fly his helicopter yourself.

{{Gripe}}Roofs from vehicles doesn't get crushed when you roll over. There aren't any roll bars from any cars.

:{{Rebut}}Theres a roll cage in the Sultan RS. Also, the roof of a car is supposed to be a very protective part of a car.

{{Gripe}}The [[Dozer]] is gone, regardless on going into any construction sites.

:::{{Rebut}}Play QUB3D

::::{{Gripe}}I'd rather play Duality, Go Go Space Monkey, and They Crawled from Uranus from [[GTA San Andreas]], rather than just one arcade game that [[Rockstar Games]] totally ruined it.

{{Gripe}}There are only 3 unique [[Clothing]] stores in the game.

{{Gripe}}Considering how Rockstar Games put alot of good well known songs on the radio in both GTA Vice City and San Andreas (as well as having the Scarface soundtrack in GTA III), I was surprised and dissappointed to find out that GTA IV's soundtrack is mostly made up of unknown artists (granted, there are several big name artists but, hardly any compared to previous games) and completely fails to reflect popular music of the current decade, in my opinion. However, the parodys of the war on terror, internet, movies etc on the radio do reflect the decade well.

:{{Rebut}}Listen to an ipod or MP3.

===Characters===

{{Gripe}} Dimitri & Bulgarin make no attempt to attack or engage the Bellic Cousins outside of a mission. Previous games featured "no-go" areas or random attacks in accordance with the storyline. The fact that the Russian mob are central to the story, but unsighted in the open world portion of the game again hurts the believability of the story.

:{{Rebut}}Technically the story is paused while not on a mission

{{Gripe}} According to the police database website, Bulgarin is dead. This is just a stupid idea from Rockstar, because I'm betting that every person here wants to kill him.