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::::::{{Gripe}}Ultraussie here again, that does kinda make sense, but I say its extremly unrealistic for every single Patrol unit to be modifed like that, and, I dont think the Crown Victoria/Impala would go that fast, even with a modified engine, and also, it would be impratical for fuel usage, a consideration in any Police Fleet.. | ::::::{{Gripe}}Ultraussie here again, that does kinda make sense, but I say its extremly unrealistic for every single Patrol unit to be modifed like that, and, I dont think the Crown Victoria/Impala would go that fast, even with a modified engine, and also, it would be impratical for fuel usage, a consideration in any Police Fleet.. | ||
:::::::{{Gripe}}IDK, it isnt really noticeable, but its a trivial fact I must question.. BTW the exhaust note of the Police curiser sounds nothing like a killer supercar, so WTF? | :::::::{{Gripe}}IDK, it isnt really noticeable, but its a trivial fact I must question.. BTW the exhaust note of the Police curiser sounds nothing like a killer supercar, so WTF? | ||
[[Rebut]]Well, I was running from the LCPD in a municipal bus on the Plumber's SKyway, through Algonquin all the way to the airport, and all the cruisers crashing into something. the one's that didn't tried running me off the highway. BTW, the cruisers in GTA IV are based on a Chevy IMPALA and Crown Vic. | |||
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{{Gripe}}After you complete the story, you can't call Francis to lose your wanted level at all. | {{Gripe}}After you complete the story, you can't call Francis to lose your wanted level at all. | ||
:{{Rebut}}Francis would only do it once in the story anyway. Besides, there is always Kiki. | :{{Rebut}}Francis would only do it once in the story anyway. Besides, there is always Kiki. | ||
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{{Gripe}}Cops don't deploy spike strips, or utilize special pursuit vehicles for highspeed chases. Nor do they cordon off areas to trap the player. | {{Gripe}}Cops don't deploy spike strips, or utilize special pursuit vehicles for highspeed chases. Nor do they cordon off areas to trap the player. | ||
:{{Rebut}}They block off the bridges, and send more helicopters after you. | :{{Rebut}}They block off the bridges, and send more helicopters after you. | ||
::{{Rebut}}They do in fact deploy special pursuit vehicles. If you're getting chased by the [[Police Patrol]], they will then send a [[Police Cruiser]] after you. | ::{{Rebut}}They do in fact deploy special pursuit vehicles. If you're getting chased by the [[Police Patrol]], they will then send a [[Police Cruiser]] after you. | ||
:: Rebut If you read the GTA IV LCPD article, you would see that the LCPD is "underfunded", therefore unable to afford specialized equipment and vehicles, relying on there patrol cars to take down criminals...jeez...(GTA69) | :: [[Rebut]] If you read the GTA IV LCPD article, you would see that the LCPD is "underfunded", therefore unable to afford specialized equipment and vehicles, relying on there patrol cars to take down criminals...jeez...(GTA69) | ||
[[Rebut]] They can't afford a Bravado Buffalo (Dodge Charger) With underfunding from state and local government. I'm surprised they have so many vehicles and choppers. | |||
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{{Gripe}}No matter how hard players try to get away from the police's radius, cops seem to spawn near the player's vehicle. Hiding is nearly impossible, even on secluded areas. | {{Gripe}}No matter how hard players try to get away from the police's radius, cops seem to spawn near the player's vehicle. Hiding is nearly impossible, even on secluded areas. | ||
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:::::{{Rebut}}Car chases are not that common in New York City, even outside of Manhattan. Whereas in California, they occur once, maybe twice daily. | :::::{{Rebut}}Car chases are not that common in New York City, even outside of Manhattan. Whereas in California, they occur once, maybe twice daily. | ||
::::::{{Rebut}} They do. I've had my car shunted during a cutscene by a random car chase passing by. | ::::::{{Rebut}} They do. I've had my car shunted during a cutscene by a random car chase passing by. | ||
[[rebut]]Actually, I started a police chase in a Municipal bus going back and forth between the Airport and Plumbers Skyway, I wrecked the bus of the skyway and stole a Perenial and escaped on the East Borough Bridge towards Bohan. | |||
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{{Gripe}} Criminals no longer carjack vehicles. | {{Gripe}} Criminals no longer carjack vehicles. | ||
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::::{{Rebut}}What if you had an expensive car and some carjackers jacked you? That happened to me in [[GTA III]] and [[GTA Liberty City Stories]] a lot. It was very annoying. | ::::{{Rebut}}What if you had an expensive car and some carjackers jacked you? That happened to me in [[GTA III]] and [[GTA Liberty City Stories]] a lot. It was very annoying. | ||
::::{{Rebut}} Yes they do. I've watched it happen while I was stopping traffic to do my own carjacking. They broke my lights, as well. | ::::{{Rebut}} Yes they do. I've watched it happen while I was stopping traffic to do my own carjacking. They broke my lights, as well. | ||
[[Rebut]] In GTA Vice City, I was in a pizza stack with a Fire Truck outside, some guy stole it. I did watch a guy steal a car in Bohan ONCE. | |||
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{{Gripe}}Whatever happened to the "good citizen bonus" you got in [[GTA:VC]]? It was kinda cool. | {{Gripe}}Whatever happened to the "good citizen bonus" you got in [[GTA:VC]]? It was kinda cool. | ||
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::{{Rebut}}Unless you can be a good samaritan , taking the law into your own hands IS illegal. | ::{{Rebut}}Unless you can be a good samaritan , taking the law into your own hands IS illegal. | ||
:::{{Rebut}}On occasion, if you knock over a criminal running from an officer, and he sees it, they will thank you for your help but you receive no monetary reward, just a good feeling. | :::{{Rebut}}On occasion, if you knock over a criminal running from an officer, and he sees it, they will thank you for your help but you receive no monetary reward, just a good feeling. | ||
[[Rebut]] I watched World's Wildest Police Videos, a few citizens ran after a fleeing car. | |||
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{{Gripe}}You can't bribe the police to get your weapons back, like in [[GTA:VCS]]. Shouldn't that have been put in, it was in a PSP game, so it would be easy to put into a PS3 game | {{Gripe}}You can't bribe the police to get your weapons back, like in [[GTA:VCS]]. Shouldn't that have been put in, it was in a PSP game, so it would be easy to put into a PS3 game | ||
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::{{Gripe}}Isnt the LCPD corrupt? | ::{{Gripe}}Isnt the LCPD corrupt? | ||
:::It's not ''as'' corrupt. The only corrupt cop we know of is Francis McReary. Besides, it would look really suspicious if all these criminals with illegal guns were arrested, yet there were no guns in the evidence room because they had given them back. | :::It's not ''as'' corrupt. The only corrupt cop we know of is Francis McReary. Besides, it would look really suspicious if all these criminals with illegal guns were arrested, yet there were no guns in the evidence room because they had given them back. | ||
[[Rebut]] the LCPD IS corrupt. just look at patrol officers. a LCPD officers rammed me and I got a wanted level | |||
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:::::{{Rebut}}If you look closely, the Alderney cops' uniforms bear resemblance to those of the New Jersey State Police (light blue shirt with a black Sam Browne belt, navy trousers with a gold stripe on either side, and a white cap). Also, on their shoulders are yellow triangular patches, which, if you look closely, read "State Police" in blue letters, much like the NJSP's patch. In the many times I've gotten into trouble with the law in Alderney, they sometimes yell "State Police!" before opening fire. -bigpoppa9 | :::::{{Rebut}}If you look closely, the Alderney cops' uniforms bear resemblance to those of the New Jersey State Police (light blue shirt with a black Sam Browne belt, navy trousers with a gold stripe on either side, and a white cap). Also, on their shoulders are yellow triangular patches, which, if you look closely, read "State Police" in blue letters, much like the NJSP's patch. In the many times I've gotten into trouble with the law in Alderney, they sometimes yell "State Police!" before opening fire. -bigpoppa9 | ||
::::{{Gripe}} Thats kinda underealsitic, because if they are the State Police of Alderney, how come they drive LCPD cars? It wouldnt be too difficult for Rockstar to put in different cars for different areas like in SA, with copcarla, copcarsf, copcarvg, and copcarru, but seriously, its only 2 or 1 extra cars, like if they can include new NPC's and make the effort to record new audio, why cant they make the effort to make a new PJ for a car? | ::::{{Gripe}} Thats kinda underealsitic, because if they are the State Police of Alderney, how come they drive LCPD cars? It wouldnt be too difficult for Rockstar to put in different cars for different areas like in SA, with copcarla, copcarsf, copcarvg, and copcarru, but seriously, its only 2 or 1 extra cars, like if they can include new NPC's and make the effort to record new audio, why cant they make the effort to make a new PJ for a car? | ||
[[Rebut]]When I shot up a strip club in Alderney, first to people to show up were State Police. First two cars to show up were LCPD. and in alderney, a State Police Officer is a passenger. | |||
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{{Rebut}} It is legal for officers of the law to comandeer a civilian vehicle if necessary. | {{Rebut}} It is legal for officers of the law to comandeer a civilian vehicle if necessary. | ||
[[Rebut]] I had LCPD/NOOSE vehicles in my parking spot in Bohan, some guy was arrested and they stole my vehicle. I they go after m NOOSE Cruiser, I take the criminal and the car! | |||
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::::{{Gripe}}No, cops don't know who Niko is, even when you kill them whenever it is mission-based, so how do you supposed that cops have the right to shoot at Niko, just because he freaks out? Degraded realism, that is. | ::::{{Gripe}}No, cops don't know who Niko is, even when you kill them whenever it is mission-based, so how do you supposed that cops have the right to shoot at Niko, just because he freaks out? Degraded realism, that is. | ||
:::::{{Rebut}}It's not "freaking out", it's resisting arrest. Resisting arrest gets you two stars, and above one stars cops shoot at you. | :::::{{Rebut}}It's not "freaking out", it's resisting arrest. Resisting arrest gets you two stars, and above one stars cops shoot at you. | ||
[[Gripe]] Not true, I had a pistol out on one star, they shot to kill! | |||
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{{Gripe}}Policemen sometimes shoot and kill security guards. | {{Gripe}}Policemen sometimes shoot and kill security guards. | ||
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::::::{{Gripe}}No, it did'nt help at all. Cops always mistake security guards for a gang member, and the security guard always attempts to shoot me on purpose, just to get the cops/other gangs attention. That's another unrealistic attempt by Rockstar Games. | ::::::{{Gripe}}No, it did'nt help at all. Cops always mistake security guards for a gang member, and the security guard always attempts to shoot me on purpose, just to get the cops/other gangs attention. That's another unrealistic attempt by Rockstar Games. | ||
:::::::{{Rebut}}In the eyes of in-game cops, there's no difference between a gang member and a security guard. They only classify people as fellow cops, civilians or civilians with guns. | :::::::{{Rebut}}In the eyes of in-game cops, there's no difference between a gang member and a security guard. They only classify people as fellow cops, civilians or civilians with guns. | ||
[[rebut]] I sometimes do it for fun at the airport, at the unrestricted Fuel Section at the south end. I shoot a gun and put the No wanted Lvl Cheat in. and I get out and hide behind my car until the LCPD kills him and as long as you don't fight back and the cops see it, they will kill them for you. | |||
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{{Gripe}} Pointing a gun at a civilian near a police officer merits no response! I can't believe that he would just stand around like that. | {{Gripe}} Pointing a gun at a civilian near a police officer merits no response! I can't believe that he would just stand around like that. | ||
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:::{{Rebut}}Cops ignore lots of things, like moving violations (running red lights, speeding, driving in an oncoming traffic lane, the list goes on), trespassing, being in a stolen cop car (since they will give you the 1 star if you hit them, they clearly know you aren't a cop), etc. Those oversights aren't ignorance or mistakes, they are just there because it would really break the game if every time you ran a red light you got a 1-star wanted rating. For that matter, 1-star ratings are easy enough to get out of that it's really not a big deal to have one anyway. | :::{{Rebut}}Cops ignore lots of things, like moving violations (running red lights, speeding, driving in an oncoming traffic lane, the list goes on), trespassing, being in a stolen cop car (since they will give you the 1 star if you hit them, they clearly know you aren't a cop), etc. Those oversights aren't ignorance or mistakes, they are just there because it would really break the game if every time you ran a red light you got a 1-star wanted rating. For that matter, 1-star ratings are easy enough to get out of that it's really not a big deal to have one anyway. | ||
:::{{Rebut}}If you shot the person, or aimed the gun at the cop, then he would take notice. | :::{{Rebut}}If you shot the person, or aimed the gun at the cop, then he would take notice. | ||
[[gripe]] In south algonquin, I saw everyone run a red light. even LCPD officers! | |||
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{{Gripe}} Why is it that Niko can resist arrest on foot, but if he is pulled out of a car, he has to surrender? Why I can't I just shoot, and possibly kill, the cop trying to jack me to evade capture, at the expense of a 3-star wanted level, if I'm not already at or above said wanted level? | {{Gripe}} Why is it that Niko can resist arrest on foot, but if he is pulled out of a car, he has to surrender? Why I can't I just shoot, and possibly kill, the cop trying to jack me to evade capture, at the expense of a 3-star wanted level, if I'm not already at or above said wanted level? | ||
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::{{Rebut}}I came to the conclusion that the cop would see you reaching for the door handle or off of the steering wheel and kill you before you could make your move. | ::{{Rebut}}I came to the conclusion that the cop would see you reaching for the door handle or off of the steering wheel and kill you before you could make your move. | ||
:::{{Gripe}} If what you're saying is true, then why don't the cops kill you when they see you getting up off your knees after they hold you up at gunpoint when your on foot? | :::{{Gripe}} If what you're saying is true, then why don't the cops kill you when they see you getting up off your knees after they hold you up at gunpoint when your on foot? | ||
[[gripe]] Why can't you just lock the dang doors! | |||
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{{Gripe}}You cannot perform a hand-to-hand combat against an officer. Niko is forced to raise his hands up at gunpoint, thus halting the combat engagement. Also, if you shoot an officer, you'd end up havin a 3-star wanted level and will have the cop cars swarm in on you. | {{Gripe}}You cannot perform a hand-to-hand combat against an officer. Niko is forced to raise his hands up at gunpoint, thus halting the combat engagement. Also, if you shoot an officer, you'd end up havin a 3-star wanted level and will have the cop cars swarm in on you. | ||
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The cop doesn't do a thing, only chase it, at the same speed when Niko is running when pointing a gun-> SLOW. | The cop doesn't do a thing, only chase it, at the same speed when Niko is running when pointing a gun-> SLOW. | ||
:{{Rebut}}And other times, if a cop car is nearby, the criminal will be escorted to the car, and get in the back seat. I had a Police Stockade (obtained using cheats in the mission "Tunnel of Death") parked outside my Bohan safehouse, and when a cop arrested someone, the criminal climbed in the back seat of the truck (only to run away after I got in to drive). | :{{Rebut}}And other times, if a cop car is nearby, the criminal will be escorted to the car, and get in the back seat. I had a Police Stockade (obtained using cheats in the mission "Tunnel of Death") parked outside my Bohan safehouse, and when a cop arrested someone, the criminal climbed in the back seat of the truck (only to run away after I got in to drive). | ||
[[rebut]] on the bridge towards bohan, I was in a Police Vehicle. I called backup and 2 cops were run over by a car, one was dead. the cop would've been sprinting after the guy when he started running for Vehiclular Homicide and Attempted Vehiclular Homicide | |||
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{{Gripe}}There's no army. They were a fun addition, especially the tanks. WTF | {{Gripe}}There's no army. They were a fun addition, especially the tanks. WTF | ||
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{{Gripe}} It would have been cool to see unmarked police cruisers patrolling around the city. And I don't mean FBI people, but LCPD people in unmarked versions of the Police Cruiser/Patrol driving around (with minor things such as mirror lights to differentiate them from civilian versions), being all incognito and stuff. | {{Gripe}} It would have been cool to see unmarked police cruisers patrolling around the city. And I don't mean FBI people, but LCPD people in unmarked versions of the Police Cruiser/Patrol driving around (with minor things such as mirror lights to differentiate them from civilian versions), being all incognito and stuff. | ||
[[rebut]] When I surrendered once in a 2 star wanted level in Alderney, an LCPD officer moved in on me and the Alderney State police kept firing clips of 9mm Ammo. | |||
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{{Gripe}} When you exit a police vehicle a random cop (who had no vehicle to begin with) who just arrested someone will put the criminal in your car and drive away. For example, I escaped from a 5* wanted level with an enforcer (with no cheats), got out to eat a hotdog then turned around to see a random cop putting a criminal in the back and starting to drive away {{Rebut}} but for some reason i could jack him and he acted like a regular civilian and ran away | {{Gripe}} When you exit a police vehicle a random cop (who had no vehicle to begin with) who just arrested someone will put the criminal in your car and drive away. For example, I escaped from a 5* wanted level with an enforcer (with no cheats), got out to eat a hotdog then turned around to see a random cop putting a criminal in the back and starting to drive away {{Rebut}} but for some reason i could jack him and he acted like a regular civilian and ran away | ||
[[rebut]] that happened to me a few times in Bohan, I had a NOOSE Patriot in my spot, an LCPD officer ran off with it down the street, If you see it happening, get in the car before the cop. | |||
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{{Gripe}} If the player sees a police officer chasing a thug and you harm the thug or punch him or whatever, the police arrest ''you!'' This happened at the [[South Bohan Safehouse|Bohan hideout]]. | {{Gripe}} If the player sees a police officer chasing a thug and you harm the thug or punch him or whatever, the police arrest ''you!'' This happened at the [[South Bohan Safehouse|Bohan hideout]]. | ||
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{{Gripe}} Brucie says police are outsourcing arrests to "private contracters", yet you still need a police computer to access the database. If they really were outsoucring, shouldn't the database be available to use without police equipment, such as via cellphone or computer. | {{Gripe}} Brucie says police are outsourcing arrests to "private contracters", yet you still need a police computer to access the database. If they really were outsoucring, shouldn't the database be available to use without police equipment, such as via cellphone or computer. | ||
[[rebut]] I harmed a Murderer on the highway (He ran from the cops before being arrested for Vehicular Homicide) the same cop and Toll Booth guys chased me! | |||
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