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 I don't see how the two sites can become affiliated and loving partners when all GTA Wikia is is a stolen copy of Grand Theft Wiki. I'm happy to let the GTA Wikia users and staff edit over here, I'm even happy to entertain discussions, but we will not be linking to or supporting that site for as long as it has stolen our content and competes against the people that founded it. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 20:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
+== Re: Facebook ==
+How dare you come onto this site and lecture me about something that happened long before you joined that site, that you don't even understand. Our anger was at [http://gta.wikia.com/Talk:Grand_Theft_Auto_V_Protagonist?oldid=341798#Whatever_happened_to_a_female_Protagonist.3F this discussion] (the last 2 sections on that page), where GTA Wikia members and staff state sexist and homophobic comments, believing men are better, believing gay men want to be women, and that women should be excluded from playing and appearing in GTA games.
+The specific comments left on Wikia by its members and staff include:
+*''"if any GTA game has a female protagonist I won't buy it and I can guarentee the majority of GTA fans will feel the same way"''
+*''"everyone I know would hate to have a female protagonist"''
+*''"a female protagonist is not as bad as, probably a gay protagonist"''
+*''"I agree that playing as a woman wouldn't be as bad as a gay protagonist"''
+*''"I don't care if it's 2011, men will always prefer playing as men, unless they are gay"''
+*''"women's places in GTA style video games will always be secondary roles"''
+And to repeat my comments at the time: ''"I am really disgusted by the comments above. For a start, I really don't see how you can say that 'most' fans would refuse to buy the game if it had a female protagonist. Really? Does it really matter? I didn't really identify with CJ at all, so the storyline wasn't my scene, but I still enjoyed the game loads. Ox is right that race didn't stop people buying San Andreas, IV or TBOGT. I honestly don't think you have to believe you are that character to enjoy the game, especially since there is a lot more to do than just play the storyline missions. I actually think most straight men would enjoy playing as a busty sexy female character, although of course asking them to date men would be a bit too far. I think Lara Croft is very relevant, actually, and Saints Row too. Maybe a GTA with a female character would change things even more. As for "playing as a woman wouldn't be as bad as a gay protagonist" I am honestly disgusted at those comments. So automatically every single heterosexual male is better than every female or non-straight male? That is really the most important thing to you? So even if the game was perfect in every way except the protagonist happened to be gay, you'd never ever play it? What you might not realise is a number of this wiki's previous staff (staff at Grand Theft Wiki) are gay, and they love GTA more than most. Even having to date women in SA and IV didn't put them off. Yes I'm sure some idiots would find it weird but I did not expect to find staff on this wiki spreading hate like that. Your sexist, homophobic, hate-filled comments have lost all my respect for you."''
+If you support the homophobic and sexist comments left by those other members, and believe GTA should be only for heterosexual males, then I have no respect for you either. If you think that they are just expressing an opinion, then I too am allowed to express my opinion that what they said is wrong. That discussion happened in public, so there's no harm on me commenting on it in public. I am not "insulting" anyone - simply disagreeing very strongly with what they say.
+Stay out of things that do not concern you, and please stop trying to act as some sort of messenger or peacemaker between the sites, it is completely demeaning. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 10:50, 15 April 2012 (UTC)