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::'''Redirects:''' Not that this has actually been discussed as such, but I still have an opinion. I have never agreed with the movement to abolish the use of redirects. I ''definitely'' agree with A-Dust that they aren't the nicest sight in the world (referring to the 'Redirected from' text), but either are piped links. And unlike that small link under the page title after following a redirect, piped links make the wiki more difficult to use because they make articles take longer to write, and make editing more confusing. Redirects also allow users to make links without knowing the exact title of an article. I always use redirects to simplify code, and if I link to something only to find that it's a red link, I don't change the link - I find the correct title, and create a redirect at my link. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 08:42, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
::'''Redirects:''' Not that this has actually been discussed as such, but I still have an opinion. I have never agreed with the movement to abolish the use of redirects. I ''definitely'' agree with A-Dust that they aren't the nicest sight in the world (referring to the 'Redirected from' text), but either are piped links. And unlike that small link under the page title after following a redirect, piped links make the wiki more difficult to use because they make articles take longer to write, and make editing more confusing. Redirects also allow users to make links without knowing the exact title of an article. I always use redirects to simplify code, and if I link to something only to find that it's a red link, I don't change the link - I find the correct title, and create a redirect at my link. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 08:42, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
== Re: {{tl|gameselect}} in {{tl|Infobox vehicle}} ==
You didn't give a specific example of a page that this problem is occurring on, but I'm aware of the issue.
The point of the new template system for game names (as outlined on [[Grand Theft Wiki:Games]] and accessed through {{template|gameselect}}) is three-fold:
*To allow any input to be converted into a game name (whether they type "5" or "GTA V" etc)
*To allow a consistent output (showing "GTA V" but linking to [[Grand Theft Auto V]])
*To automatically add the semantic information (as seen on [[Special:Properties]])
If any pages still use the old-style 'Appearances' section for the infoboxes, where they list several games with links and line breaks, those pages ''need'' to be changed to use the new format. That's one of the biggest jobs we have now - making sure every mission/vehicle/character properly uses the infoboxes. [[:Category:Fix Games]] is ''supposed'' to automatically apply if the games part of the infobox isn't filled out properly, but that is empty so I'll check it out.
This new system has been in the works for a while, so simply going back to how it used to be wouldn't solve anything. This gives us the ability to automate lists and tables - like we already do with characters - for example, country pages like [[United Kingdom]] automatically show a list of all characters from that country per-era. This is already up-and-running so any GTA V characters will automatically show up as soon as someone adds the infobox to their page. This will extend to vehicles and missions, subdivided automatically. This means we won't have to go around editing 10 pages with lists/tables every time we add/alter content or rename a page or change something. The idea is once you add the content and fill out the infobox, everything is done automatically from there. See the automatically generated tables [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAsk&q=%5B%5BType%3A%3AVehicles%5D%5D%5B%5BAppearance%3A%3AGTA+Vice+City%5D%5D&po=&sort_num=&order_num=ASC&eq=yes&p%5Bformat%5D=broadtable&p%5Blimit%5D=&p%5Bsort%5D=&p%5Boffset%5D=&p%5Bheaders%5D=show&p%5Bmainlabel%5D=&p%5Blink%5D=all&p%5Bsearchlabel%5D=%E2%80%A6+further+results&p%5Bintro%5D=&p%5Boutro%5D=&p%5Bdefault%5D=&p%5Bclass%5D=sortable+wikitable+smwtable&eq=yes vehicles in GTA VC] or [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAsk&q=%5B%5BType%3A%3ACharacters%5D%5D%5B%5BAppearance%3A%3AGTA+Vice+City%5D%5D%5B%5BNationality%3A%3AUnited+Kingdom%5D%5D&po=&sort_num=&order_num=ASC&eq=yes&p%5Bformat%5D=broadtable&p%5Blimit%5D=&p%5Bsort%5D=&p%5Boffset%5D=&p%5Bheaders%5D=show&p%5Bmainlabel%5D=&p%5Blink%5D=all&p%5Bsearchlabel%5D=%E2%80%A6+further+results&p%5Bintro%5D=&p%5Boutro%5D=&p%5Bdefault%5D=&p%5Bclass%5D=sortable+wikitable+smwtable&eq=yes British characters in GTA VC]. We're just getting started, but this will be really cool when it's all working.
Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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