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 ::One last thing; I've seen a lot of people disagree with you, but with all due respect: I don't think your opinion here matters more than mine, or anyone's because you're the owner. This is a wiki, a small community; we do and discuss things together. That matters on encyclopedic websites more than anywhere else. Just a small, and as friendly as possible, reminder. I may be wrong though, I may have got the wrong impresion.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] ([[User talk:Loadingue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Loadingue|edits]]) 01:35, 1 May 2013 (BST)
+You're absolutely right that nobody's opinion weighs more than any other. We try to do everything by consensus. That is why we have all of these discussions, and this is how everything is decided on the wiki. If no consensus can be reached, we can either continue repeating the discussion, continue without any decision being made (and having two conflicting styles), or a decision is taken by the staff. There have only ever been one or two occasions where that has needed to happen, and I hope that this is not one of them.
+Yes, no system is perfect. I'm not suggesting everything appears in all of & exactly one era, and I'm not suggesting that eras be used in every sentence. You can still list games or use Universes. Merging the GTA IV and V eras would not prevent that, but keeping them separate gives us another option.
+The actual policy is to use the lowest common denominator:
+*If something appears in one game only, mention the game
+*If something appears in several games within an era, mention the era (the games can be listed further in)
+*If something appears in more than one era, mention the universe
+*If something appears in more than one universe, you can list the universes or the eras (whichever is more appropriate)
+The purpose of using Eras and Universes is to avoid having to manually list every single game. We can just say that [[Patrick McReary]] is a character in the GTA IV Era, and that is a nice simple explanation. It does not say he appears in every game, but it is more precise than saying he appears in the HD Universe.
+The policy is that we use an Era where it fits, or we use Universes where it doesn't. Every situation is covered. If (as you suggest) most things in GTA IV will also appear in GTA V,
+I genuinely believe that in a couple of years' time, we will look back and see two separate groups of games. The GTA IV era has IV+TLAD+BOGT+CW (all set in LC) and the GTA V Era will have V plus a couple more games (all set in San Andreas). There will be huge numbers of things that fit neatly into one of those two groups - characters, storylines, features etc. I genuinely think calling all of those games the "GTA IV Era" would seem silly to us then, and would not give us an easy option to specify which of the two groups something appears in. Yes, there will be crossovers, but these are easy to call the HD Universe.
+With the GTA III Era, you're right that the games could be divided up into three sets, but there is no way for us to do that. The GTA IV Era is very clean and straightforward to identify, and it fits perfectly within our existing naming structure for Eras (IE based on number). The fact that GTA V seems to share some vehicles does not ruin that.
+This is my main point: I can see that 4+5 are more closely related than 3+4, but that is acceptable because they are within the same universe. Sharing some weapons and vehicles does not automatically make them the same Era, we still group the IV-era games together, and the V-era games will be grouped. Anything that spans both of those eras can be said to be part of the HD universe. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:28, 1 May 2013 (BST)