Talk:Collectibles: Difference between revisions - Grand Theft Wiki, the GTA wiki

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==Organization==

Any advice on how to organize this article would be greatly appreciated. So far, I have separated [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] into their constituent parts, according to [[GTA III Era]] and [[GTA IV]]. However, I also have a subheading ''GTA San Andreas'' under the ''GTA III Era'' heading, which says collectibles are subdivided into 4 constituents, but doesn't include the Unique Jumps (the fifth component). How should we arrange this stuff? It seems a little awkward to me as is. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''''' 21:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Any advice on how to organize this article would be greatly appreciated. So far, I have separated [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] into their constituent parts, according to [[GTA III Era]] and [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]]. However, I also have a subheading ''GTA San Andreas'' under the ''GTA III Era'' heading, which says collectibles are subdivided into 4 constituents, but doesn't include the Unique Jumps (the fifth component). How should we arrange this stuff? It seems a little awkward to me as is. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''''' 21:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:I kind of think that San Andreas' collectibles ''are'' hidden packages. If Tiki statues and ballons are, why not oysters, horseshoes, etc.? So, whaddaya think of my reformat? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]][[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]] 02:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

::That looks great, [[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]], thank you! However, my question was more along the lines of whether we should try to include the [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] in with the other [[GTA San Andreas]] collectibles, as they are, at least in my mind, collectibles as well. What do you think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''''' 02:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

::That looks great, [[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]], thank you! However, my question was more along the lines of whether we should try to include the [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] in with the other [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]] collectibles, as they are, at least in my mind, collectibles as well. What do you think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''''' 02:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I agree they are collectibles, which is why they are on the collectibles page... however they are ''not'' "hidden packages", so it makes sense to me to keep them separated as they are; the "San Andreas" sub-section lists ''hidden packages'' in San Andreas, not all collectibles in San Andreas. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]][[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]] 16:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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(I realize that my explanation took up a lot of space and is rather lengthy, so feel free to shorten it and/or remove it once you've all read it and understand my perspective-whether you agree or not). --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]][[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]] 18:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:That looks great to me. My only concern is the delineation between types of collectibles. It still seems arbitrary the way it is arranged. I agree that [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] should be separated between [[GTA San Andreas]] and [[GTA IV]]. However, I'm a little worried about including [[snapshot]]s and [[tags]] under the [[Hidden Packages]] subheading. Because hidden packages are '''always''' [[pickups]] in [[GTA III Era]] games, [[horseshoes]] and [[oysters]] make sense under that heading, but tags and snapshots do not, as they, like the unique jumps, require the player to use either an item (e.g. the [[camera]] or [[Spray Paint]]) or a vehicle in order to collect them. Contrarily, hidden packages only require picking up, which I think distinguishes them from any other type of collectible. I think we need to endeavor to make the distinction between GTA:SA and other GTA III Era games more clear, i.e. aiming at delineating by game '''first''', by lumping all pre-GTA:SA games together (since they don't vary much in terms of collectibles), and creating distinct headings (with their own subheadings) for GTA:SA and GTA IV. Of course, as Gboyers mentioned, this can get a little messy with multiple subheadings. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''''' 21:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:That looks great to me. My only concern is the delineation between types of collectibles. It still seems arbitrary the way it is arranged. I agree that [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] should be separated between [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]] and [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]]. However, I'm a little worried about including [[snapshot]]s and [[tags]] under the [[Hidden Packages]] subheading. Because hidden packages are '''always''' [[pickups]] in [[GTA III Era]] games, [[horseshoes]] and [[oysters]] make sense under that heading, but tags and snapshots do not, as they, like the unique jumps, require the player to use either an item (e.g. the [[camera]] or [[Spray Paint]]) or a vehicle in order to collect them. Contrarily, hidden packages only require picking up, which I think distinguishes them from any other type of collectible. I think we need to endeavor to make the distinction between GTA:SA and other GTA III Era games more clear, i.e. aiming at delineating by game '''first''', by lumping all pre-GTA:SA games together (since they don't vary much in terms of collectibles), and creating distinct headings (with their own subheadings) for GTA:SA and GTA IV. Of course, as Gboyers mentioned, this can get a little messy with multiple subheadings. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''''' 21:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Stunt jumps with road vehicles -- not in III ==

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Can I edit for correcting this?

--[[User:Richardg|richardg]] 00:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:In [[GTA III]] there are no vehicles that aren't land vehicles. The [[Dodo]] doesn't fly, so while it's definitely a plane, the game doesn't categorize it as a sky vehicle, because there are no sky vehicles (if that makes sense). So make not of it, but don't say anything about a glitch, because in GTA III, the Dodo is just a vehicle. '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''''' 05:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:In [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]] there are no vehicles that aren't land vehicles. The [[Dodo]] doesn't fly, so while it's definitely a plane, the game doesn't categorize it as a sky vehicle, because there are no sky vehicles (if that makes sense). So make not of it, but don't say anything about a glitch, because in GTA III, the Dodo is just a vehicle. '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''''' 05:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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 ==Organization==
-Any advice on how to organize this article would be greatly appreciated.  So far, I have separated [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] into their constituent parts, according to [[GTA III Era]] and [[GTA IV]].  However, I also have a subheading ''GTA San Andreas'' under the ''GTA III Era'' heading, which says collectibles are subdivided into 4 constituents, but doesn't include the Unique Jumps (the fifth component).  How should we arrange this stuff?  It seems a little awkward to me as is. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
+Any advice on how to organize this article would be greatly appreciated.  So far, I have separated [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] into their constituent parts, according to [[GTA III Era]] and [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]].  However, I also have a subheading ''GTA San Andreas'' under the ''GTA III Era'' heading, which says collectibles are subdivided into 4 constituents, but doesn't include the Unique Jumps (the fifth component).  How should we arrange this stuff?  It seems a little awkward to me as is. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 :I kind of think that San Andreas' collectibles ''are'' hidden packages.  If Tiki statues and ballons are, why not oysters, horseshoes, etc.?  So, whaddaya think of my reformat?  --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
-::That looks great, [[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]], thank you!  However, my question was more along the lines of whether we should try to include the [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] in with the other [[GTA San Andreas]] collectibles, as they are, at least in my mind, collectibles as well.  What do you think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 02:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
+::That looks great, [[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]], thank you!  However, my question was more along the lines of whether we should try to include the [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] in with the other [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]] collectibles, as they are, at least in my mind, collectibles as well.  What do you think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 02:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 :::I agree they are collectibles, which is why they are on the collectibles page... however they are ''not'' "hidden packages", so it makes sense to me to keep them separated as they are; the "San Andreas" sub-section lists ''hidden packages'' in San Andreas, not all collectibles in San Andreas.  --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 16:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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 (I realize that my explanation took up a lot of space and is rather lengthy, so feel free to shorten it and/or remove it once you've all read it and understand my perspective-whether you agree or not).  --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 18:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
-:That looks great to me.  My only concern is the delineation between types of collectibles.  It still seems arbitrary the way it is arranged.  I agree that [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] should be separated between [[GTA San Andreas]] and [[GTA IV]].  However, I'm a little worried about including [[snapshot]]s and [[tags]] under the [[Hidden Packages]] subheading.  Because hidden packages are '''always''' [[pickups]] in [[GTA III Era]] games, [[horseshoes]] and [[oysters]] make sense under that heading, but tags and snapshots do not, as they, like the unique jumps, require the player to use either an item (e.g. the [[camera]] or [[Spray Paint]]) or a vehicle in order to collect them.  Contrarily, hidden packages only require picking up, which I think distinguishes them from any other type of collectible.  I think we need to endeavor to make the distinction between GTA:SA and other GTA III Era games more clear, i.e. aiming at delineating by game '''first''', by lumping all pre-GTA:SA games together (since they don't vary much in terms of collectibles), and creating distinct headings (with their own subheadings) for GTA:SA and GTA IV.  Of course, as Gboyers mentioned, this can get a little messy with multiple subheadings.  Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
+:That looks great to me.  My only concern is the delineation between types of collectibles.  It still seems arbitrary the way it is arranged.  I agree that [[Unique Stunt Jumps]] should be separated between [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]] and [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]].  However, I'm a little worried about including [[snapshot]]s and [[tags]] under the [[Hidden Packages]] subheading.  Because hidden packages are '''always''' [[pickups]] in [[GTA III Era]] games, [[horseshoes]] and [[oysters]] make sense under that heading, but tags and snapshots do not, as they, like the unique jumps, require the player to use either an item (e.g. the [[camera]] or [[Spray Paint]]) or a vehicle in order to collect them.  Contrarily, hidden packages only require picking up, which I think distinguishes them from any other type of collectible.  I think we need to endeavor to make the distinction between GTA:SA and other GTA III Era games more clear, i.e. aiming at delineating by game '''first''', by lumping all pre-GTA:SA games together (since they don't vary much in terms of collectibles), and creating distinct headings (with their own subheadings) for GTA:SA and GTA IV.  Of course, as Gboyers mentioned, this can get a little messy with multiple subheadings.  Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 == Stunt jumps with road vehicles -- not in III ==
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 Can I edit for correcting this?
 --[[User:Richardg|richardg]] 00:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
-:In [[GTA III]] there are no vehicles that aren't land vehicles. The [[Dodo]] doesn't fly, so while it's definitely a plane, the game doesn't categorize it as a sky vehicle, because there are no sky vehicles (if that makes sense). So make not of it, but don't say anything about a glitch, because in GTA III, the Dodo is just a vehicle. '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 05:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
+:In [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]] there are no vehicles that aren't land vehicles. The [[Dodo]] doesn't fly, so while it's definitely a plane, the game doesn't categorize it as a sky vehicle, because there are no sky vehicles (if that makes sense). So make not of it, but don't say anything about a glitch, because in GTA III, the Dodo is just a vehicle. '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 05:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)