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I doubt the serial killer exists. But keep looking for him! --[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]] 07:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I doubt the serial killer exists. But keep looking for him! --[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]] 07:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
No the serial killer is real. I just dont see why he's called serial killer. I have seen the Mass Grave. It's kinda creepy. I dont think it involves the serial killer. I think its something with the Area 69 near the grave. Anybody Agree? [[User:SanAndreasSecrets|SanAndreasSecrets]] 15:20, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


the serial killer does exist he is a proven myth as i found him myself but it took me a while to find the mass grave. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 10:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
the serial killer does exist he is a proven myth as i found him myself but it took me a while to find the mass grave. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 10:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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::This game has been out for four years. Anything like that would have been discovered in the code long ago. It's been reverse-engineered to death... [[User:C-d-rom|C-d-rom]] 22:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
::This game has been out for four years. Anything like that would have been discovered in the code long ago. It's been reverse-engineered to death... [[User:C-d-rom|C-d-rom]] 22:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


well how long has it taken in real life to prove that ghosts exist and besides you are people are problemly looking at the wrong time all i know is that the ghost appears at nightime doing foggy and stormy condition. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 10:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
well how long has it taken in real life to prove that ghosts exist and besides you are people are problemly looking at the wrong time all i know is that the ghost appears at nightime doing foggy and stormy condition. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 10:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


:You're comparing the idea of proving ghosts exist ''in real life'' to doing so in a game that has everything pre-coded into it? *double facepalm* [[User:Ghost Leader|Ghost Leader]] 23:52, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
:You're comparing the idea of proving ghosts exist ''in real life'' to doing so in a game that has everything pre-coded into it? *double facepalm* [[User:Ghost Leader|Ghost Leader]] 23:52, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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:Y'know what? I've come around to SE's idea, we SHOULD delete this page. If someone wants to keep it they can duplicate it in their own userspace. If you want to do that Stephen, feel free, no-one is going to contradict you there. Just keep your speculation out of the Wiki proper... [[User:C-d-rom|C-d-rom]] 16:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Y'know what? I've come around to SE's idea, we SHOULD delete this page. If someone wants to keep it they can duplicate it in their own userspace. If you want to do that Stephen, feel free, no-one is going to contradict you there. Just keep your speculation out of the Wiki proper... [[User:C-d-rom|C-d-rom]] 16:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


do you even try to find them so called 'myth hunter' I did find something strange when investigating bigfoot and ghost cars i saw this big black human like figure standing on a rock near the stream i only saw it for a couple of seconds then it disapears some but not all myths as a bit of truth and nonsense about them oh and i also saw ghost car driving down a hill the strange thing about it was it turned around and drove back up the hill a bit oh and i don't use mods as i only have the ps2 version one some of the myths are pretty strange still you seem to like the myths i found and people on this wiki that are myth hunters should be allowed to find were they are and what myths there. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 16:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
do you even try to find them so called 'myth hunter' I did find something strange when investigating bigfoot and ghost cars i saw this big black human like figure standing on a rock near the stream i only saw it for a couple of seconds then it disapears some but not all myths as a bit of truth and nonsense about them oh and i also saw ghost car driving down a hill the strange thing about it was it turned around and drove back up the hill a bit oh and i don't use mods as i only have the ps2 version one some of the myths are pretty strange still you seem to like the myths i found and people on this wiki that are myth hunters should be allowed to find were they are and what myths there. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 16:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:But as the Internet famously claims "pics or it didn't happen". You've got absolutely no proof of this, and there's no documented evidence of it happening on any unmodified games in the past. It's just conjecture from you. Ghost car driving down a hill? Yes, that does happen, many people can attest to it happening, and indeed it's explainable through the way the game spawns cars. The GLENSHIT and SADLSHIT (as the ghost cars are called in gta3.img iirc) spawn at the top of the hill and roll down. There is no way for them to come back up. There is no-one there to drive them. Cars in SA don't just turn around in the middle of the road either, ghost or not, unless the driver is startled. They follow paths. The "man on a rock" thing is just, frankly, irrational. Stuff like that just doesn't happen in-game. For one thing, you don't even get peds out in the forest... [[User:C-d-rom|C-d-rom]] 16:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:But as the Internet famously claims "pics or it didn't happen". You've got absolutely no proof of this, and there's no documented evidence of it happening on any unmodified games in the past. It's just conjecture from you. Ghost car driving down a hill? Yes, that does happen, many people can attest to it happening, and indeed it's explainable through the way the game spawns cars. The GLENSHIT and SADLSHIT (as the ghost cars are called in gta3.img iirc) spawn at the top of the hill and roll down. There is no way for them to come back up. There is no-one there to drive them. Cars in SA don't just turn around in the middle of the road either, ghost or not, unless the driver is startled. They follow paths. The "man on a rock" thing is just, frankly, irrational. Stuff like that just doesn't happen in-game. For one thing, you don't even get peds out in the forest... [[User:C-d-rom|C-d-rom]] 16:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


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Yeah, i don't think deleting this would be the best idea, however restricting it from certain people who write 100% pure bullcrap could be a good idea, such as the part about Las Brujas i saw earlier...
Yeah, i don't think deleting this would be the best idea, however restricting it from certain people who write 100% pure bullcrap could be a good idea, such as the part about Las Brujas i saw earlier...


Guys, i added a little bit to article about Las brujas ghosts. Hopefulyl that shoudl stop any vandalism...
Guys, i added a little bit to article about Las brujas ghosts. Hopefulyl that shoudl stop any vandalism...
 
dude its okay im myth hunter for real and I investigated this myth and i got scared just standing there I did see this so called figure standing in the graveyard and i came to decide that its a mispawning of a randome pedistrain by accident and the game gets rid of it straight away so i think this is nothing more then a simple giltch that get people over with joy and they do not know its just a mispawning of a random ped. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 10:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
Yeah, I also myth hunt most of the time i play GTA SA. I never saw the ghost figure. But planes like the beagle and Ruslter crash on the graveyard alot. I agree i think its mis-spawning of peds. Dont Delete This Page!! [[User:SanAndreasSecrets|SanAndreasSecrets]] 15:43, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
 


dude its okay im  myth hunter for real and I investigated this myth and i got scared just standing there I did see this so called figure standing in the graveyard and i came to decide that its a mispawning of a randome pedistrain by accident and the game gets rid of it straight away so i think this is nothing more then a simple giltch that get people over with joy and they do not know its just a mispawning of a random ped. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 10:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


but there are no peds mis-spawning there, not even that happens, the only thing that does happen is a flower pick up spawning. :P
but there are no peds mis-spawning there, not even that happens, the only thing that does happen is a flower pick up spawning. :P


you are a SELF PROCLAIMED mythhunter. Don;t go running areund chanting "Im a Mythhunter!" and think that because you say that you are right and officlal. There is no "Ghost" there. Either it is a miss spawning ped, the flower pickup, or a shadow. --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span> 11:26, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
you are a SELF PROCLAIMED mythhunter. Don;t go running areund chanting "Im a Mythhunter!" and think that because you say that you are right and officlal. There is no "Ghost" there. Either it is a miss spawning ped, the flower pickup, or a shadow. --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span>11:26, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


ok then its just a giltch then ever taught about that kina like what happens with the ghost cars.user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 11:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
ok then its just a giltch then ever taught about that kina like what happens with the ghost cars.user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 11:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


I coulden't really understand that sentence, but yes, I't is a glitch. Even if it isin't then It is not a myth because people have found it. But in my opinion it is just a glitch. --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span> 11:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I coulden't really understand that sentence, but yes, I't is a glitch. Even if it isin't then It is not a myth because people have found it. But in my opinion it is just a glitch. --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span>11:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


The ghostcar is a glitch, it's because of the physics nature of the game, the car spawns just a few cm in or above the game ground, and due to the game's "gravity", and the fact that the spawnpoint is at a certain grade( hill) it rolls downwards. There is no ghost driving it, it's all just an error on Rockstar Games' side, the same happens with the car spawning at a driveway in Verona beach, Los Santos, it rolls down sometimes.
The ghostcar is a glitch, it's because of the physics nature of the game, the car spawns just a few cm in or above the game ground, and due to the game's "gravity", and the fact that the spawnpoint is at a certain grade( hill) it rolls downwards. There is no ghost driving it, it's all just an error on Rockstar Games' side, the same happens with the car spawning at a driveway in Verona beach, Los Santos, it rolls down sometimes.
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the car in guestion is the glendale, or indeed glenshit.dff as it it is called internally.
the car in guestion is the glendale, or indeed glenshit.dff as it it is called internally.


The only way you can make it spawn and being driven by other characters in the game is to edit the cargrp.dat file in the \data folder in gta san andreas' game folder. This is done by putting "glenshit," in the list of cars that should appear with certain ped groups.
The only way you can make it spawn and being driven by other characters in the game is to edit the cargrp.dat file in the \data folder in gta san andreas' game folder. This is done by putting "glenshit," in the list of cars that should appear with certain ped groups.


Kudos for your knowledge on modding. The Ghost car is indeed as you explained, a physics error. Also, make sure you sign your comments with four tidles (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span> 11:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Kudos for your knowledge on modding. The Ghost car is indeed as you explained, a physics error. Also, make sure you sign your comments with four tidles (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span>11:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


Sorry, i thought it did that automatically, i'm new on this wiki ( on using it anyway, been reading it for quite a while though) --[[User:Glenni91|Glenni91]] 11:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)--
Sorry, i thought it did that automatically, i'm new on this wiki ( on using it anyway, been reading it for quite a while though) --[[User:Glenni91|Glenni91]] 11:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)--


Hey thats alright, we were all new at one stage. If you have any other things you are stuck on then you can contact one of the [[Staff]] in the future. Good luck! --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span> 11:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey thats alright, we were all new at one stage. If you have any other things you are stuck on then you can contact one of the [[Staff]] in the future. Good luck! --<span style="background: orange; color: #AA0000; padding: 0em 1em;">'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' </span>11:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


== video evidence of not mod users on youtube. ==
== video evidence of not mod users on youtube. ==


ever watch dartdemountus or cfox on youtube they have the best evidence they only use weapon mods i think and they have the shady creek creature, las brujas ghost figure, the bear, mothman and they don't use bigfoot mods or leatherface only weapon and cars. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 14:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
ever watch dartdemountus or cfox on youtube they have the best evidence they only use weapon mods i think and they have the shady creek creature, las brujas ghost figure, the bear, mothman and they don't use bigfoot mods or leatherface only weapon and cars. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 14:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, DarthDementous and CfOx036 myths are real. I watch them even as of Today (2010). But there's on myth of darth dementous i dont believe. His Ghodt car episode. Yes, the ghost car rools down by itself and even attacks CJ sometimes when you get in the way. But the car came on and attacked him. Idk if its the CLEO mod or what ever. I have GTA San Andreas on XBOX 360 and pS2. And the ghost car only rolls down and occasionally attacks me but maybe its true. IDK  [[User:SanAndreasSecrets|SanAndreasSecrets]] 15:28, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


:Im gonna say this once again. Nothing on youtube is any form of PROOF because, no matter what they say (I didn't use mods! Everyone belive me!!!) you don't know if their lying or not. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:Im gonna say this once again. Nothing on youtube is any form of PROOF because, no matter what they say (I didn't use mods! Everyone belive me!!!) you don't know if their lying or not. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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2.Rockstar has never confirmed or declined ufos in the game. However they did state quote: "We did not intintinally put ufo's in-game.However, there may be some data still in the game we thought to have deleted." That being said i promise i saw a ufo it was a black octagon shape it appered and then faded into the clouds.
2.Rockstar has never confirmed or declined ufos in the game. However they did state quote: "We did not intintinally put ufo's in-game.However, there may be some data still in the game we thought to have deleted." That being said i promise i saw a ufo it was a black octagon shape it appered and then faded into the clouds.
hi,listen!i was at area 69 okay,and i kept my ps2 on for a couple in-game hours,anyway,at mid-day,there was this red tral thing that had a light beig followed by the trail.it started 2 cum down.maybe at about the top of the first altitude bar,i took out my lock-on bazooka.i shot it down!but this thing came out,i shot it,but it was invincible,but i had the invincibility cheat on.and inf ammo cheat on.this happend when i was like,screw it,im bored,im spawning a hunter,thats wen i saw it come at me.i was like,wtf!omg!!it tryed 2 shoot me,and i took a snapshot of it.then i saved it in my memory card.it was about 2x as tall as me,brown/dark green.this was the second time i saw one.the first time i saw one was in my hydra,doin a sortie(manuevers,barrel roll,loop-de-loop,and evasive manuevers.(stlling plane so enemy plane passes me,using flares).anyways,i locked on.it was going so fast,from the end of my airstrip,to approximatley to the hoover damn,or whateve it is n the game,took it about...a good 5,10 seconds.i know it is a ufo,because no other fixed wing aircraft,such as the beagle,nevada,hydra,dodo,or shamal could go that fast.[[User:GTA MAN87|GTA MAN87]] 00:36, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, those fast moving lights in the sky may not be planes, as in the games files they are called UFOLIGHT. However, this may just mean that the UFO's are up in the sky just for ambience, they never come down. The rest of the stuff you said, as explained in above discussions, cannot be true. These models/handling lines/weapons DO NOT appear in the games files, and so would obviously not be in the game itself without an unoficcial mod. Also, you claimed that a UFO "Attacked you" and that it "Shot at you". Perhaps you confused this UFO with a [[Police Maverick]] as you were near [[Area 69]] you may have gained a wanted level. To sum things up, "No image, No proof" and anyone attempting to counter this saying will not succeed, as no one will believe them. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 08:40, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
GTA MAN87, all I can say is: Without footage, it's fiction. [[User:CAPTAINMSKII|CAPTAINMSKII]] 19:35, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
:No. Without data from the game files, it's fiction. Since it's a GAME, everything can be explained by the experts who hacked the game (since Rockstar doesn't release any documentation...). Videos and screenshots can be blurred or faked, causing great ambiguity and headaches. And please reply with a colon (:). It makes it easier to see where replies end and start.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|Spaceeinstein]]''' 01:49, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
== the serial killers hand ==
I zoomed into the hand of the serial killer covered by the flowers and it looks like if hes carrying something like a pistol or shotgun and someone could of simply used the recruit gang member cheat with the peds have weapon cheat on. user--[[User:Stephendwan|Stephendwan]] 20:09, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
== ufo stuff ==
it was true.i hav the ps2 version.so,it would be impossble to mod that version.plus im not a idiot,i NEVER go to anywere withoutt my no stars cheat on.you know green goo that mission? i complted it today 5/13/10 3:49 pm.it spawned again.mybe r* is hiding something.if it isnt in the files,R* may have delted it.just like the "hot coffe" thing.today i finally killed one&i have the pictures i my gallery.all 32 of them.remmber this only happened 2 other times.it is a gitch.know the alien cowboy?well,i found my first link to them.if tey put in a ped with suck dialog,then why
would they put in those ufolights to?i think it is offley suspicous.i have tons of proof.
1.lights appear to be going 500kmph,compared to the hydras 387kmph
2.no fixed wing craft in the game can go that fast
3.appear to have lights of red,white,green&blue
4.it IS PSSIBLE to fly to it in a bank.3 in 1000
5.photos of aliens in my gallery
6.recorded suspcous ped convesions via ipod nano.
7.shot down one.
8.landed by me
9.look like elites from Halo
10.^ on top of that,possible easteregg [[User:Gtaman87|Gtaman87]] 21:28, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
:What you said above does not really make sense. You say that if the myths stuff is not in the files then Rockstar must have deleted it. Then how could it be in the game if its not in the files?'''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 10:22, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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Well Gtaman could you put some proof? I'm 60-40 on the UFO myth. But what if the files are hidden Chimpso? Not trying to be a noob. I have Xbox 360 and Ps2 GTA San Andreas. But I checked my friends GTA SA for Pc using this thing called Img Tool or something and there were 4 files i saw named UFOLiGHT.dff or something like .mg or .dff idk. Please say if im wrong or not. Idk [[User:SanAndreasSecrets|SanAndreasSecrets]] 15:34, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
== Again, please verify ==
Please verify that Big Smoke's ghost actually exist. A blurry blob in a picture is not good enough... Things that do not exist cannot be treated as fact in this website.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 19:09, 8 June 2011 (BST)
== Sharks ==
Regarding sharks, are they really a myth since a file is actually found in the game a file named shark.txd? Also, I think I may have spotted one when I fell into the broken bridge near Red County, it like swam away and despawned a second later, but it was probably a dolphin or whatever else is identical to a shark. --[[User:TheJustinAllenK|TheJustinAllenK]] ([[User talk:TheJustinAllenK|talk]])
:There is a [[wp:Craps|craps]] table in the game files, but does that mean you can actually play craps? The game doesn't spawn the shark, that means sharks doesn't exist in the game.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 03:54, 28 October 2011 (BST)
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