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::::::I haven a question that has to do with the redirects. You said that some would be necessary such as the L.C.P.D to LCPD. Well would it be right to make a redirect page for the driving school, which would be Turning Tricks Advanced Motoring?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:59, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
::::::I haven a question that has to do with the redirects. You said that some would be necessary such as the L.C.P.D to LCPD. Well would it be right to make a redirect page for the driving school, which would be Turning Tricks Advanced Motoring?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:59, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


:::::::Redirects are useful for two reasons. Firstly, it's a lot easier to link to [[GTA London 1961]] than the full game title. Sometimes we go to the extreme and have shortcuts like [[TLAD]] to make life easier for editors. Secondly, someone might search for (or link to) a title that doesn't automatically take them to the right page. For example searching for [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=advanced+motoring&go=1 "Advanced Motoring"] doesn't take you to the right page, and the search results are unhelpful, so a redirect to [[Driving School]] would be one way to fix that. However, just putting those words on the [[Driving School]] page would also work, and it's unlikely that many people would actively look fo "Turning Tricks Advanced Motoring". However [[L.C.P.D.]] is a good example because searching for that won't bring up a page on [[LCPD]] without a redirect (as we couldn't list every variation on the page). So in this case, a redirect isn't really necessary unless you think it makes life easier for someone along the way. If you think it does, then go ahead.  [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 22:33, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Redirects are useful for two reasons. Firstly, it's a lot easier to link to [[Grand Theft Auto: London, 1961|GTA London 1961]] than the full game title. Sometimes we go to the extreme and have shortcuts like [[The Lost and Damned|TLAD]] to make life easier for editors. Secondly, someone might search for (or link to) a title that doesn't automatically take them to the right page. For example searching for [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=advanced+motoring&go=1 "Advanced Motoring"] doesn't take you to the right page, and the search results are unhelpful, so a redirect to [[Driving School]] would be one way to fix that. However, just putting those words on the [[Driving School]] page would also work, and it's unlikely that many people would actively look fo "Turning Tricks Advanced Motoring". However [[L.C.P.D.]] is a good example because searching for that won't bring up a page on [[LCPD]] without a redirect (as we couldn't list every variation on the page). So in this case, a redirect isn't really necessary unless you think it makes life easier for someone along the way. If you think it does, then go ahead.  [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 22:33, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


:::::::::This is not a really good question to ask me right now. My computer has crashed and is getting repaired and thats why I am not on much. But I agree with Gboyers. If it makes things easier then feel free to create a redirect. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 23:02, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::This is not a really good question to ask me right now. My computer has crashed and is getting repaired and thats why I am not on much. But I agree with Gboyers. If it makes things easier then feel free to create a redirect. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 23:02, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
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I don't know what you mean.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
==Crusher Rewards==
:''Imported from [[User talk:GuildKnight#Hey thanks for the welcome]]''.
Is there a page already made describing the rewards for crushing vehicles at a crusher in [[Grand Theft Auto 2|GTA 2]].--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:43, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
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==Images==
==Images==
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== Images ==
== Images ==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS/Archive]]''.
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS/Archive#Images]]''.
:How do you get your images of vehicles. I see how you could in GTA San Andreas, but not in the other GTA Era games.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 05:52, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Images ==
How do you get your images of vehicles. I see how you could in GTA San Andreas, but not in the other GTA Era games.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 05:52, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:Made use of hidden features in the games. Angle and picture quality are also important. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:51, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:Made use of hidden features in the games. Angle and picture quality are also important. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:51, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:What do you mean by hidden features in the games? And did those two [[Mesa]] images, and the wrecked [[Idaho]] look better than what they would have on the TV monitor?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
What do you mean by hidden features in the games? And did those two [[Mesa]] images, and the wrecked [[Idaho]] look better than what they would have on the TV monitor?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:One word: [[Replay]]s. And unless you have hardware to screencap console games, you're always going to end up using a camcorder or a camera to take pictures, which almost certainly results in piss poor quality. That's the downside of using console games to take pictures.
:One word: [[Replay]]s. And unless you have hardware to screencap console games, you're always going to end up using a camcorder or a camera to take pictures, which almost certainly results in piss poor quality. That's the downside of using console games to take pictures.<p>Don't forget to optimize your graphic settings in the PC version GTASA. Use a "1280x1024x32" resolution. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:56, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Don't forget to optimize your graphic settings in the PC version GTASA. Use a "1280x1024x32" resolution. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:56, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Could you take a look at these two images for me, and tell which one looks better in quality? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 00:16, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Could you take a look at these two images for me, and tell which one looks better in quality? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 00:16, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Idaho (San Andreas) (Wreck).jpg]]. And remember to turn on anti-aliasing as well. JPG pictures made from the game are blurry, and AA helps smooth that out a bit. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
[[File:Idaho-GTASA-wreck.jpg|thumb]]
:I tried to turn on anti-aliasing but it won't do it. Do I have to do something else with the display to get it to work?
[[File:Idaho-GTASA-wreck.jpg|thumb]]
 
:[[:File:Idaho-GTASA-wreck.jpg]]. And remember to turn on anti-aliasing as well. JPG pictures made from the game are blurry, and AA helps smooth that out a bit. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 
I tried to turn on anti-aliasing but it won't do it. Do I have to do something else with the display to get it to work?
 
:It might be a graphics card thing. Either your graphics card doesn't support AA (because it's old), or you need to find the newest driver for the graphics card. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
:It might be a graphics card thing. Either your graphics card doesn't support AA (because it's old), or you need to find the newest driver for the graphics card. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
:I think he's trying to change the setting by clicking. You use the mouse wheel then click to set it. Sorry if this wasn't the problem--[[User:Thescarydude|Thescarydude]] 19:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Where would I find the newest driver?
::I think he's trying to change the setting by clicking. You use the mouse wheel then click to set it. Sorry if this wasn't the problem--[[User:Thescarydude|Thescarydude]] 19:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 
Where would I find the newest driver?
 
:If you know the model and make of your graphics card, you have no trouble Googling it. Just search for "driver (insert graphics card name)". You can find out the GC's name by accessing the System's properties in the Control Panel. Or ask around in GTAForums. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
:If you know the model and make of your graphics card, you have no trouble Googling it. Just search for "driver (insert graphics card name)". You can find out the GC's name by accessing the System's properties in the Control Panel. Or ask around in GTAForums. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
:OK I got the anti-aliasing to work, what number do I set it to? 1, 2, or 3? Also does the higher number make it clearer. Also it slows down gameplay, is there anything to make it to where it doesn't do this?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 18:53, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 
OK I got the anti-aliasing to work, what number do I set it to? 1, 2, or 3? Also does the higher number make it clearer. Also it slows down gameplay, is there anything to make it to where it doesn't do this?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 18:53, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 
:The higher the number, the better the AA. And it does slow down gameplay a bit, but only if you're running it on a computer that's around 3 years old or more. If it does reduce framerates, just turn on AA only when you want to take a picture; turn it off when you don't need it. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:The higher the number, the better the AA. And it does slow down gameplay a bit, but only if you're running it on a computer that's around 3 years old or more. If it does reduce framerates, just turn on AA only when you want to take a picture; turn it off when you don't need it. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC) One more thing, would it be wise to use widescreen, and do you need high visual fx quality?
 
Thanks--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 
One more thing, would it be wise to use widescreen, and do you need high visual fx quality?
 
:Avoid widescreen. From what I've seen, the widescreen setting is usually meant for widescreen monitors (i.e. those that don't use [[wp:4:3|4:3]] as opposed to [[wp:16:9|16:9]]); in reality, the actual number of pixels displayed is still the same, so screencapped images of a widescreen GTA game usually results in the images appearing thinner than usual. As for visual FX, usually you might want to make the most out of the game's graphical capabilities, although lower settings also means that you don't have to deal with blades of grass obstructing the tires of certain vehicles parked on an empty plain; also, vehicle shadows in lower visual FX do look better because it's darker than those in higher visual FX. It still depends on you though. Do you want better graphics (as intended by the developers), or better presentation? - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:Avoid widescreen. From what I've seen, the widescreen setting is usually meant for widescreen monitors (i.e. those that don't use [[wp:4:3|4:3]] as opposed to [[wp:16:9|16:9]]); in reality, the actual number of pixels displayed is still the same, so screencapped images of a widescreen GTA game usually results in the images appearing thinner than usual. As for visual FX, usually you might want to make the most out of the game's graphical capabilities, although lower settings also means that you don't have to deal with blades of grass obstructing the tires of certain vehicles parked on an empty plain; also, vehicle shadows in lower visual FX do look better because it's darker than those in higher visual FX. It still depends on you though. Do you want better graphics (as intended by the developers), or better presentation? - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:Well I finally got the hardware, I'm using Fraps, and I'm using a 1400x900 screen resolution. But for some reason blips on the [[Radar]] appear smaller but just the square ones. Why is that?
 
Well I finally got the hardware, I'm using Fraps, and I'm using a 1400x900 screen resolution. But for some reason blips on the [[Radar]] appear smaller but just the square ones. Why is that?
:Not sure about that, I suppose it's the resolution. If you can go up to 1600x1200, it might work. Otherwise, scale down to 1280x1024. And 1400x900 is a widescreen resolution; it's not 4:3. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:02, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
:Not sure about that, I suppose it's the resolution. If you can go up to 1600x1200, it might work. Otherwise, scale down to 1280x1024. And 1400x900 is a widescreen resolution; it's not 4:3. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:02, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think that my laptop supports anti-aliasing. Does it only work on desktop computers?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 22:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
I don't think that my laptop supports anti-aliasing. Does it only work on desktop computers?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 22:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Graphics card-related issue. Depends on which GC you're using. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:Graphics card-related issue. Depends on which GC you're using. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:Are video cards things can come with your computer? Because I can't get any updates for mine, Intel (R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile. So I'm going to try to switch to an Nvidia driver. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
:Are video cards things can come with your computer? Because I can't get any updates for mine, Intel (R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile. So I'm going to try to switch to an Nvidia driver. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
:And could you tell me what this is? It's those little lines or something. Is that the MIP mapping?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 20:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
:And could you tell me what this is? It's those little lines or something. Is that the MIP mapping?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 20:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


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== English spelling ==
== English spelling ==
:''Lines 1-3 imported from [[User talk:Gboyers#GTA Wikia]]''.
:I was just wondering how there is a recent contributors tab at the bottom of each page, along with a recent activity board on the main page, but this is the only wiki to have it. Could you tell me? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 22:56, March 8, 2010 (UTC)


Hi. American English is not any more "correct" than British English, so please do not go around changing text [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Gboyers&s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=190643 from one to the other]. Especially talk pages, since those are a record of the words of the person who wrote them, not what should have been said. You can read more in the [[Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide#Language|style guide]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:08, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
Hi. American English is not any more "correct" than British English, so please do not go around changing text [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Gboyers&s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=190643 from one to the other]. Especially talk pages, since those are a record of the words of the person who wrote them, not what should have been said. You can read more in the [[Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide#Language|style guide]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:08, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry about that I wasn't paying attention to the that. Usually when I see a red line under a word I correct it. Again sorry.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:13, March 8, 2010 (UTC)


==Observatory image==
==Observatory image==
The [[:File:Cedar_Ridge_Observatory_(GTA3).png|file]] has been restored. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 23:49, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
:''Imported from [[User talk:A-Dust#A Favor]]''.
 
:You being an admin, do you think you could do me a favor? Could you undelete the image File:Cedar Ridge Observatory (GTA3).png long enough for me to get it on my computer? Thanks.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:30, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
The <code>File:Cedar Ridge Observatory (GTA3).png|file]]</code> has been restored. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 23:49, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Thanks, I needed that, and I have it on my computer now if you want to delete it.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:53, March 9, 2010 (UTC)


==Businesses==
==Businesses==
:''Imported from [[User talk:A-Dust#Finishing Business Sections]]''.
:I have an idea on how to get all of the businesses in each game. I don't know if it's a good one, but would it be better to use images of them in all the places they appear in, instead of having all of the separate articles? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:41, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
I've always thought that each business should have their own article, but I know that others, including [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]], have in the past disagreed with this. However, the idea for the wiki is to be inclusionist and there should be no reason for this not to extend to businesses. There should, however, also be the lists included on the main pages ([[Businesses in GTA III]]), similar to [[Characters in GTA San Andreas]], giving information and links to the main article. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:45, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
I've always thought that each business should have their own article, but I know that others, including [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]], have in the past disagreed with this. However, the idea for the wiki is to be inclusionist and there should be no reason for this not to extend to businesses. There should, however, also be the lists included on the main pages ([[Businesses in GTA III]]), similar to [[Characters in GTA San Andreas]], giving information and links to the main article. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:45, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:So use a table on them, like on the [[Businesses in GTA Vice City]] page?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:49, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes but without the businesses with articles section. If all businesses have an article there is no need for that section. There is also the option of a table format, such as [[Characters in GTA San Andreas]]. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 03:06, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes but without the businesses with articles section. If all businesses have an article there is no need for that section. There is also the option of a table format, such as [[Characters in GTA San Andreas]]. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 03:06, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Should it be [[Businesses in GTA San Andreas#Adult Entertainment|something like this]]?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 03:21, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late reply. Yes that's fine, although another column stating the locations of each store could be a useful addition to a table. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:27, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late reply. Yes that's fine, although another column stating the locations of each store could be a useful addition to a table. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:27, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
:Could you take a look at the page again and tell me if that's right? And should the type of business heading be removed and put in the chart?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:48, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
::::That's fine, but the first column seems rather empty with the addition of the image. The two could always be combined, by adding <nowiki><br>'''Businesses name here'''</nowiki> after the image. And yes, eventually there would be no need for the categories as that could be added into the location section. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 03:33, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
:Got it, but what about the businesses that have articles? Should those go into the chart too?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:33, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes they should. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:38, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes they should. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:38, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
::::That's fine, but the first column seems rather empty with the addition of the image. The two could always be combined, by adding <nowiki><br>'''Businesses name here'''</nowiki> after the image. And yes, eventually there would be no need for the categories as that could be added into the location section. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 03:33, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Should they be alphabetized or in order according to type? And I think I'll start with GTA3 on my [[User:Gta-mysteries/Sandbox2|sandbox]].--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 22:22, March 11, 2010 (UTC)


Preferrably alphabetised. I've had a look at your sandbox and you could condense the information into two columns. One with the image and name of the company and the other for information (for example, location, what type of business, owners (if known), etc.). [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:08, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
Preferrably alphabetised. I've had a look at your sandbox and you could condense the information into two columns. One with the image and name of the company and the other for information (for example, location, what type of business, owners (if known), etc.). [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 02:08, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


==Brotherhood of the PS3==
==Brotherhood of the PS3==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Black Artist#Reply]]''.
:You play on the PS3?-[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] 01:16, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:You play on the PS3?-[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] 01:16, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes I play on the PS3. Why do you ask?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:17, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


:I was gonna ask for your PSN.--[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] 21:39, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
:I was gonna ask for your PSN.--[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] 21:39, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
:I tried getting PSN a while back and FXX tried helping me, but I couldn't get my internet connection on it. Could you help me with it too?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:37, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
FXX is a friend of mine. I'd be happy to help. First, what type of internet are you using? Wireless or Wired, and with what Company? --[[User:Black Artist]] 09:40, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:I have a wireless connection. As for the company I'm not sure.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:12, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:Have you made sure both your router AND modem are working properly? Green light and everything. I would try unpluging and repluging everything. Sorry if this sounds basic, but I did the same thing when my internet was being stupid. [[User:Black Artist]] 21:20, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Yes they are all hooked up correctly.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:22, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
::When you fire up your PS3 and go to Network Settings, Then Internet Connection Test, what is the problem? [[User:Black Artist]] 21:26, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:It has the wrong internet connection, and it says it the access point was not detected.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:33, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:::Go to Network Settings, and try to see where the problem of occurs. Go to easy, and make sure that the internet doesn't have any security on it for now.--[[User:Black Artist]] 21:38, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:OK this is what I've done Network Settings > I started to setup a connection > Easy > then do I go to Scan, Enter Manually, or Automatic?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:44, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:::: Scan. You should find the name of whatever wireless router you have, if you ''did'' give it a name when you first installed it. After you do that, keep picking easy or automatic for everything else.... --Black Artist 21:47, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Whats the WPA Key?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:52, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
::::: A type of security. If your router has security on it, then you'll need to input the password that the installer created, (i think). To bypass this, simply log into your router page on your PC and remove the security settings so its "none".--Black Artist 21:58, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


== Nomination for Promotion ==
== Nomination for Promotion ==


{{promote|Grand Theft Wiki:Promotion/Gta-mysteries}}
 
Hi. You have been nominated by [[User:A-Dust]] to become [[Staff]] on Grand Theft Wiki. Please visit your [[Grand Theft Wiki:Promotion/Gta-mysteries|promotion page]] to accept/reject the nomination and answer the provided questions. A decision will be made once users have had a chance to ask further questions and issue their opinion. Thanks - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 15:32, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You have been nominated by [[User:A-Dust]] to become [[Staff]] on Grand Theft Wiki. Please visit your [[Grand Theft Wiki:Promotion/Gta-mysteries|promotion page]] to accept/reject the nomination and answer the provided questions. A decision will be made once users have had a chance to ask further questions and issue their opinion. Thanks - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 15:32, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


== Help With Conversions ==
== Image Conversions ==
:''Lines 1-4 imported from [[User talk:ZS#Image Conversions]], and line 6 imported from [[User talk:Chris Louch#RE: Image Conversions]]''.


Hey Man If You Want Help Converting Some Images Just Leave Me A Message I Got Nothing Else To Do With My Time
:Could you delete all my images that use the PNG format. I'm starting to use JPG, and they look better than they did before. Thanks --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 16:01, February 28, 2010 (UTC)


::Duly noted. It's only a matter of how fast I'll come across these images. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 16:03, February 28, 2010 (UTC)


:Oh, well should I tag them for deletion?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 16:07, February 28, 2010 (UTC)


[[User:Chris Louch|Chris Louch]] 21:43, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
::Not really, unless you immediately have replacement. But as mentioned, this matter is important, but it's not urgent. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 11:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
Hey Man If You Want Help Converting Some Images Just Leave Me A Message I Got Nothing Else To Do With My Time -[[User:Chris Louch|Chris Louch]] 21:43, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Thanks, but I pretty much have it done. I have a list on my use page of all the ones I'm through with.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:46, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


==Mule==
==Mule==
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:Besides the emulators, I do need help with something else. I'm trying to get a full panorama shot of Upstate in GTA III. But I don't know how. Could you help me with this too? This is what I have so far.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 06:42, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
:Besides the emulators, I do need help with something else. I'm trying to get a full panorama shot of Upstate in GTA III. But I don't know how. Could you help me with this too? This is what I have so far.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 06:42, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


{{wide image|Upstate Panorama-GTA3.jpg|480px|Upstate|alt=}}
{{wide image|Upstate-GTAIII-panorama.jpg|480px|Upstate|alt=}}


:See "[http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/takeit/panorama.mspx Creating great panoramas]" and "[http://www.ehow.com/how_4700306_photo-panorama-free-using-autostitch.html How to Create Photo Panorama For Free Using Autostitch]". Search engines are your friends. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:14, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
:See "[http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/takeit/panorama.mspx Creating great panoramas]" and "[http://www.ehow.com/how_4700306_photo-panorama-free-using-autostitch.html How to Create Photo Panorama For Free Using Autostitch]". Search engines are your friends. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:14, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
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==Emulators==
==Emulators==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS#Emulators]]''.
:''First line imported from [[User talk:GTA4LIFE#Emulators]], and lines 2-21 imported from [[User talk:ZS#Emulators]]''.
 
:Do you know how to use emulators for the PS2?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 00:15, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
:<no reply>
:I need to ask you, which emulator did you use for GTA LCS, and GTA VCS? Is it PCXS2? And to get images of cars do you use FPV of one vehicle for another with the HUD, and radar turned off? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:24, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
:I need to ask you, which emulator did you use for GTA LCS, and GTA VCS? Is it PCXS2? And to get images of cars do you use FPV of one vehicle for another with the HUD, and radar turned off? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:24, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
::PCXS2. It's the only stable emulator available (although the poor frame rate management makes it very unusable for actual gameplay in these games). And yes, that's the only way I was able to achieve this look. FPV on motorcycles tend to work best because of their compact size; I tend to use a [[Faggio]] because its FPV height is the most optimum, allows me to lean forward and backward, is the smallest available vehicle. Any vehicle that is larger will require a [[Sanchez]]. Otherwise, I'll opt for trucks with a higher FPV camera position. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 07:57, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
::PCXS2. It's the only stable emulator available (although the poor frame rate management makes it very unusable for actual gameplay in these games). And yes, that's the only way I was able to achieve this look. FPV on motorcycles tend to work best because of their compact size; I tend to use a [[Faggio]] because its FPV height is the most optimum, allows me to lean forward and backward, is the smallest available vehicle. Any vehicle that is larger will require a [[Sanchez]]. Otherwise, I'll opt for trucks with a higher FPV camera position. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 07:57, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
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:The installation of the bios, and the plugins. Could you tell me which files you need to have?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:15, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:The installation of the bios, and the plugins. Could you tell me which files you need to have?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:15, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:You'll need the BIOS from the actual console. It's a bit complicated considering you need to "dump" the BIOS using specialized tools (I happen to have a PS2 to do this legally). See [http://forums.pcsx2.net/thread-2298.html#Bios here]. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 17:00, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
:You'll need the BIOS from the actual console. It's a bit complicated considering you need to "dump" the BIOS using specialized tools (I happen to have a PS2 to do this legally). See [http://forums.pcsx2.net/thread-2298.html#Bios here]. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 17:00, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
== Reply 2 ==
FXX is a friend of mine. I'd be happy to help. First, what type of internet are you using? Wireless or Wired, and with what Company? --[[User:Black Artist]] 09:40, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:Have you made sure both your router AND modem are working properly? Green light and everything. I would try unpluging and repluging everything. Sorry if this sounds basic, but I did the same thing when my internet was being stupid. [[User:Black Artist]] 21:20, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
::When you fire up your PS3 and go to Network Settings, Then Internet Connection Test, what is the problem? [[User:Black Artist]] 21:26, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:::Go to Network Settings, and try to see where the problem of occurs. Go to easy, and make sure that the internet doesn't have any security on it for now.--[[User:Black Artist]] 21:38, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:::: Scan. You should find the name of whatever wireless router you have, if you ''did'' give it a name when you first installed it. After you do that, keep picking easy or automatic for everything else.... --Black Artist 21:47, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
::::: A type of security. If your router has security on it, then you'll need to input the password that the installer created, (i think). To bypass this, simply log into your router page on your PC and remove the security settings so its "none".--Black Artist 21:58, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


== Promotion ==
== Promotion ==


<div style="float:right">{{userbox:admin}}</div>
<div style="float:right">{{userbox:Admin}}</div>
Congratulations. Due to the overwhelming [[Grand Theft Wiki:Promotion/Gta-mysteries|support]] for your promotion, I have promoted you to [[Administrator]] directly. This means you can now protect/move/delete/undelete pages; suspend/block users; patrol and revert edits. Please go carefully at first, until you are familiar with the tools and processes, and please ask me if you have any questions about anything. Check out the staff section of [[Grand Theft Wiki:Tasks|Tasks]] to see what sort of things you can now help with, and keep your eye on the [[SN|Staff Noticeboard]] for updates. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 10:06, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations. Due to the overwhelming [[Grand Theft Wiki:Promotion/Gta-mysteries|support]] for your promotion, I have promoted you to [[Administrator]] directly. This means you can now protect/move/delete/undelete pages; suspend/block users; patrol and revert edits. Please go carefully at first, until you are familiar with the tools and processes, and please ask me if you have any questions about anything. Check out the staff section of [[Grand Theft Wiki:Tasks|Tasks]] to see what sort of things you can now help with, and keep your eye on the [[SN|Staff Noticeboard]] for updates. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 10:06, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


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== Re: Help ==
== Re: Help ==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Gboyers#Help]], line 12 imported from [[User talk:A-Dust#Help 3]]''.
I need some help involving deleting/renaming images, and pages. For the pages I deleted the GTA_Sanandreas_Myths,_Bigsmokes_Ghost page  twice because the information from a duplicate of another page, and because it should have been in the myth section. And with the images if there is a replacement should I delete the old one and add the new version in? When renaming an image I need help with it if it has any punctuation like apostrophes, and signs, or hyphens.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:24, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


If there are two pages with the same information, you should only keep one. Keep the biggest/oldest one, because that will have the most accurate edit history (showing who added what). You can copy the information from the new/small page in, delete that page, then move the original to whatever name is best. Do NOT ever move a page by copying & pasting the contents, because it gets rid of all the edit history. With images, you can upload over the top of an existing image - replacing the image without having to delete it and then upload a new one. This is the best way, because it lets us see what has changed. If there are two images with the same content, delete one. If you ever delete an image, remember to go to every page that [[Special:Whatlinkshere|links to it]], and change them to use the correct image (or remove the image code entirely). As for image names, try and follow the convention of <code>File:SubjectName-GAME-description.jpg</code> - the description is only where multiple images have the same subject+game, such as different views/colours/types (ie [[:File:Comet-GTA4-rear.jpg]]). And please don't change the default site skin :) [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:42, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
If there are two pages with the same information, you should only keep one. Keep the biggest/oldest one, because that will have the most accurate edit history (showing who added what). You can copy the information from the new/small page in, delete that page, then move the original to whatever name is best. Do NOT ever move a page by copying & pasting the contents, because it gets rid of all the edit history. With images, you can upload over the top of an existing image - replacing the image without having to delete it and then upload a new one. This is the best way, because it lets us see what has changed. If there are two images with the same content, delete one. If you ever delete an image, remember to go to every page that [[Special:Whatlinkshere|links to it]], and change them to use the correct image (or remove the image code entirely). As for image names, try and follow the convention of <code>File:SubjectName-GAME-description.jpg</code> - the description is only where multiple images have the same subject+game, such as different views/colours/types (ie [[:File:Comet-GTA4-rear.jpg]]). And please don't change the default site skin :) [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:42, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
:So with the [[Armed Land Roamer]] page the image:Armed Land Roamer.jpg should be overwritten with the image: Armed Land Roamer (GTA2).png?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:49, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


:If you have a better image, you just click "[http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Armed_Land_Roamer.jpg&wpForReUpload=1 Upload a new version of this file]" which is on that page. That will upload a new image to <code>File:Armed Land Roamer.jpg</code>. You should then [[Special:MovePage/File:Armed_Land_Roamer.jpg|move]] the image page to the correct file name (to match our new naming rules), which should be <code>File:ArmedLandRoamer-GTA2.jpg</code> - Make sense? [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:54, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
:If you have a better image, you just click "[http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Armed_Land_Roamer.jpg&wpForReUpload=1 Upload a new version of this file]" which is on that page. That will upload a new image to <code>File:Armed Land Roamer.jpg</code>. You should then [[Special:MovePage/File:Armed_Land_Roamer.jpg|move]] the image page to the correct file name (to match our new naming rules), which should be <code>File:ArmedLandRoamer-GTA2.jpg</code> - Make sense? [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:54, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
:Got it, but what about the GTASA vehicles. The first ones were PS2, and then [[User:ZS|ZS]] redid those with PC. Should those be left alone?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:56, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


::We should always try to have the best-looking images that best show the vehicle, what it looks like, and what is unique about it. If you have a PC version and can take better screenshots than we already have from a console, then it might be good to get some better images. We do NOT need to go through and change everything to the PC version just because it's newer, and we don't need a different image for every PC/PS2 version, because usually there is no difference. If there ''is'' a difference which you want to show on the page, then by all means upload a second image (name one <code>-PS2.jpg</code> and one <code>-PC.jpg</code>). If there is only one, we don't need to say whether it's PC or PS2 in the name (but a comment on the image page would be good). Also, pages like [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=GTA_Sanandreas_Myths%2C_Bigsmokes_Ghost.&timestamp=20100323220426 GTA Sanandreas Myths, Bigsmokes Ghost] might not be useful articles, but if people have put effort into writing essays/opinion like that, you can move it to the [[Forum]], and just add <code><nowiki>{{forumheader|GTA}}</nowiki></code> at the top. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:02, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
::We should always try to have the best-looking images that best show the vehicle, what it looks like, and what is unique about it. If you have a PC version and can take better screenshots than we already have from a console, then it might be good to get some better images. We do NOT need to go through and change everything to the PC version just because it's newer, and we don't need a different image for every PC/PS2 version, because usually there is no difference. If there ''is'' a difference which you want to show on the page, then by all means upload a second image (name one <code>-PS2.jpg</code> and one <code>-PC.jpg</code>). If there is only one, we don't need to say whether it's PC or PS2 in the name (but a comment on the image page would be good). Also, pages like [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=GTA_Sanandreas_Myths%2C_Bigsmokes_Ghost.&timestamp=20100323220426 GTA Sanandreas Myths, Bigsmokes Ghost] might not be useful articles, but if people have put effort into writing essays/opinion like that, you can move it to the [[Forum]], and just add <code><nowiki>{{forumheader|GTA}}</nowiki></code> at the top. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:02, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


:Just to add with image names, try and keep it simple. Usually you only need a subject and game - for example <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV.jpg</code>. If you need multiple images of the Diablos gang in GTA IV, then you can distinguish between them by adding an extra word - such as <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-man.jpg</code>, <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-woman.jpg</code>, <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-group.jpg</code>, <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-hideout.jpg</code>. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
:Just to add with image names, try and keep it simple. Usually you only need a subject and game - for example <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV.jpg</code>. If you need multiple images of the Diablos gang in GTA IV, then you can distinguish between them by adding an extra word - such as <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-man.jpg</code>, <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-woman.jpg</code>, <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-group.jpg</code>, <code>File:Diablos-GTAIV-hideout.jpg</code>. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
:An example of the PS2/PC the [[Ghost]]. The Ghost is black in the PC/Xbox, and blue in the PS2 version. Like that? And I see how it could be moved but when I looked at it most of it was copied from the Big Smoke article. So should this be restored and moved to a forum or added into the myths page?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:08, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


::[[Ghost]] is a good example of when you'd want two images (since there is a big difference). So just like the article has now, you would have one ending in -PC and one ending in -PS2 (the "recreation" part is unnecessary). Since that article had just been copied, you can leave it. But if someone has written about their opinion or asked a question, it's easier to move it to the forum than argue about it. Don't forget to ALWAYS explain why you delete something - at the very least leave an edit summary. If someone has put a lot of effort in, it's polite to leave a message on their talk page. If you don't, then they will often scream at you and leave abusive messages everywhere and maybe even go on a rampage and start vandalising things. It happens quite a lot, so try and just be friendly and explain that the content already existed on page X (and say they can edit that page), or that it's not really relevant enough for the wiki, so they should post it on the Forum, in a sub-page of their user page, or on a different wiki. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:20, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
::[[Ghost]] is a good example of when you'd want two images (since there is a big difference). So just like the article has now, you would have one ending in -PC and one ending in -PS2 (the "recreation" part is unnecessary). Since that article had just been copied, you can leave it. But if someone has written about their opinion or asked a question, it's easier to move it to the forum than argue about it. Don't forget to ALWAYS explain why you delete something - at the very least leave an edit summary. If someone has put a lot of effort in, it's polite to leave a message on their talk page. If you don't, then they will often scream at you and leave abusive messages everywhere and maybe even go on a rampage and start vandalising things. It happens quite a lot, so try and just be friendly and explain that the content already existed on page X (and say they can edit that page), or that it's not really relevant enough for the wiki, so they should post it on the Forum, in a sub-page of their user page, or on a different wiki. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:20, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
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:Blocking is at your discretion - there is no precise rule. You need to make a judgement based on the seriousness of what they did, the likelihood of them doing it again (immediately, frequently, or in the long-term), and the benefit of removing them from the wiki (temporarily or permanently). Swearing on its own is not usually worthy of a block, unless they ignore staff requests to stop, or if they do it LOTS . If someone has been in a fight, then a short block (1-3 days) can stop the fight without causing them to leave the wiki completely. If someone has been ignoring staff, getting in big/multiple edit wars, or has general bad behaviour, a medium-length block (1 week - 3 months) might be appropriate. If they are a regular misbehaver who has repeatedly ignored or abused staff, or if they are a real user who has vandalised etc, then a long block (1 year) is enough to keep them away, but allow them to return in the future when they have maybe calmed down and matured. If they are a spammer, proven to be abusing multiple accounts, then an infinite block is necessary. Remember that if you block their IP address, you might be blocking an entire school, not just one person. That is good for short blocks, or to block spam/ad bots, but not good for long blocks of vandals (who are likely to be in a school). These are just guidelines - make your own decision, but seriously don't be afraid to ask Staff for their input into any decision. I'm very pleased that you are asking questions as well as trying to work out the answer, rather than just getting it wrong. You can see [[Special:BlockList]] if you want to see some examples. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 03:07, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
:Blocking is at your discretion - there is no precise rule. You need to make a judgement based on the seriousness of what they did, the likelihood of them doing it again (immediately, frequently, or in the long-term), and the benefit of removing them from the wiki (temporarily or permanently). Swearing on its own is not usually worthy of a block, unless they ignore staff requests to stop, or if they do it LOTS . If someone has been in a fight, then a short block (1-3 days) can stop the fight without causing them to leave the wiki completely. If someone has been ignoring staff, getting in big/multiple edit wars, or has general bad behaviour, a medium-length block (1 week - 3 months) might be appropriate. If they are a regular misbehaver who has repeatedly ignored or abused staff, or if they are a real user who has vandalised etc, then a long block (1 year) is enough to keep them away, but allow them to return in the future when they have maybe calmed down and matured. If they are a spammer, proven to be abusing multiple accounts, then an infinite block is necessary. Remember that if you block their IP address, you might be blocking an entire school, not just one person. That is good for short blocks, or to block spam/ad bots, but not good for long blocks of vandals (who are likely to be in a school). These are just guidelines - make your own decision, but seriously don't be afraid to ask Staff for their input into any decision. I'm very pleased that you are asking questions as well as trying to work out the answer, rather than just getting it wrong. You can see [[Special:BlockList]] if you want to see some examples. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 03:07, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


To enable our custom skin, you need to tick "Let the admins override my skin choice." I have 'slate' selected, but with that ticked it uses our custom CSS. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 20:49, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
:After I deleted that page I left a message on [[User talk:Creekside20985#Big smokes ghost|Creeksides20985's talk page]]. I said if he/she wanted I could undelete to move it or get information from it. Oh, and considering breaking rules such as swearing, could you tell me how many warnings one could get before a block. I asked you this because [[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] used swearing and I undid it, and left a message on his talk page.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:26, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I am working on the [[Special:Wantedfiles|wanted files]], and I've got them down to two, and I was wondering can I remove the links if their on talk pages. And one of them is on a page I cannot edit. Oh, and thanks for nominating me for Staff, I like having extra tools, and responsibility. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:23, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


:With regards to wanted files, you ''can'' edit people's talk pages/messages to remove dead links. However, you should be careful to only remove the link syntax - you should never alter the text or meaning of their comment. Either change the link into plain text or wrap it in <nowiki><code></nowiki> tags, such as <code>File:Charactersfromgta4.jpg</code> - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:43, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
:With regards to wanted files, you ''can'' edit people's talk pages/messages to remove dead links. However, you should be careful to only remove the link syntax - you should never alter the text or meaning of their comment. Either change the link into plain text or wrap it in <nowiki><code></nowiki> tags, such as <code>File:Charactersfromgta4.jpg</code> - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:43, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
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== Walkthroughs ==
== Walkthroughs ==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Gboyers#Mission walkthroughs]]''.
On all of the mission articles you say that videos should embed rather than just links. If there is a video walkthrough, should there be a written walkthrough to? And should scripts be on separate pages as well? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:15, April 10, 2010 (UTC)


Good question. Videos should be embedded into the main article, unless there are lots of them. Text walkthroughs should be big sub-pages with a summary/overview on the main article, unless they are short. Walkthroughs should have images and even edited maps (to show race/chase routes, enemy locations, escape routes etc). Transcripts should be sub-pages, unless they are really short. Every mission page should have a one-paragraph overview, even if it has walkthroughs/videos/transcripts. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:58, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
Good question. Videos should be embedded into the main article, unless there are lots of them. Text walkthroughs should be big sub-pages with a summary/overview on the main article, unless they are short. Walkthroughs should have images and even edited maps (to show race/chase routes, enemy locations, escape routes etc). Transcripts should be sub-pages, unless they are really short. Every mission page should have a one-paragraph overview, even if it has walkthroughs/videos/transcripts. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:58, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
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== LATD VS Gay Tony ==
== LATD VS Gay Tony ==
In terms of content and location size, which is better. Keep in mind I do not own GTA 4. Im just going to buy one of these on PSN. Please Help!!!!![[User:N-10 Aden|N-10 Aden]] 02:01, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


In terms of content and location size, which is better. Keep in mind I do not own GTA 4. Im just going to buy one of these on PSN. Please Help!!!!![[User:N-10 Aden|N-10 Aden]] 02:01, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
:Well I don't own either, I only have GTA IV, for the PS3. And in my opinion based on what I've seen from movies on Youtube, I would have to say TBOGT. Hope this helps. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]]


== QUESTION: ==
== QUESTION: ==
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==[[Baillie Station]]==
==[[Baillie Station]]==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Bluesboyjr#Baillie Station]]''.
:''Imported from [[User talk:Bluesboyjr#Baillie Station]], first line imported from [[User talk:ZS#Baillie Station]]''.
I need to ask you something, is the Portland EL station in Saint Mark's named Baillie Station, or [[Baille Station]]. The reason I ask you this, is [[User:Bluesboyjr|Bluesboyjr]], and I are having a [[User talk:Bluesboyjr#Baillie Station|discussion]] regarding the name whether is should be renamed or not.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
Is Baillie Station really correct instead of Baille Station?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
Is Baillie Station really correct instead of Baille Station?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


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: Nope. Station names were only given while riding the train in LCS. [[User:Bluesboyjr|Bluesboyjr]] 22:57, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
: Nope. Station names were only given while riding the train in LCS. [[User:Bluesboyjr|Bluesboyjr]] 22:57, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
== Consistency 2==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS#Consistency 2]]''.
:There's something that's been troubling me. I started to rename the images for missions in GTA IV, and I got stuck. the image names don't look correct with GTA4 at the end as opposed to GTAIV. Like <code>Image:TheCousinsBellic-GTA4</code>, the first one is easy but then the next one <code>Image:TheCousinsBellic-GTA42</code>. Do you think it would better with GTAIV2, and also puncuation marks are kind of difficult to me to, as well as some capitalization.--<font color="darkblue">'''[[:User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]]'''</font><sup>''[[User talk:Gta-mysteries|Talk page]]''</sup> 18:36, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
::Give it a basic description at the end (i.e. adding "-driving" or "-shootout"; [[:Image:BullinaChinaShop-GTA4-windowbreaking.jpg|example]]). I used to do this for certain mission images until A-Dust went ahead using numbers to distinguish these images instead. I never really understood his reasoning of it. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 18:46, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
:So like [[:Image:TheGetaway-GTAIII5.jpg]] moved to TheGetaway-GTAIII-passed.jpg. And should the images be re-named again or left alone. - [[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]]
::I'm not so fond of renaming existing images at this time; A-Dust may not like that. I just apply this naming system for newly uploaded images. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 18:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
:Alright thanks, this helps.--[[:User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 18:57, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
==Other Things==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS/Archive#Other Things]]''.
*Do you use a PSP for GTA LCS and GTA VCS.
*Whenever I screen cap something for a mission how do I know what is most important.
*Do you have a Desktop Computer or a Laptop.
[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 06:06, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
:He may also use a PS2 for [[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories|GTA: LCS]] and [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories|GTA: VCS]]. --[[User:0ComeKillLah|0ComeKillLah]] 12:01, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
::#What 0ComeKillLah said.
::#Cutscenes where key elements of the missions are present are usually more important; gameplay aspects may be used more conservatively when illustrating important parts of the mission (i.e. shootouts, chases, or any core gameplay like [[Burglary]]). Scenes where the player drives from one point to another is usually avoided unless there are interesting dialog or events.
::#Desktop.
::- [[User:ZS|ZS]] 12:21, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
==Gta-mysteries other questions==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS/Archive#Gta-mysteries other questions]]''.
Could you look at these pictures and tell me what you think of them. And what kind of hardware do you use for LCS, and VCS as far as vehicles go? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 00:50, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
These are my last questions on vehicles and others.
:Where's the shading? Was the brightness set to the highest possible setting? Normally it should be set in medium. And try to avoid having rolling drops of water on screen in GTA Vice City. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 14:39, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
:PS2 version. Used emulators. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 14:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
Which file format should I use for the images? And is a PNG file better than JPG?
:Use the jpg image, and save it in 80 quality, not 60. The thumbnail looks messed up as a result. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 11:38, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:And I must ask. Did you actually acquired the "black" vehicles from the missions themselves, or simply used a garage editor to spawn vehicles with custom colors? Most of the vehicles are not obtainable in missions, and the images give false hope. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 11:41, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:How do I save it in 80 quality?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 06:20, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
::Use an advanced graphics editing tool or image optimizer. I'm not sure about the latter because I've been using ImageReady for years. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 07:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
Really I enabled the black traffic cheat, and found the vehicles that were from the missions. I already completed the game and I didn't want to start over. And for some reason on the [[Trial By Dirt]] missions the Haitians did not appear. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 11:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably a good idea to note in the images' pages and image captions that most of the vehicles are recreations, and they are not confirmed to be obtainable. It would be advisable to check in the missions next time if they can be stolen and stored in garage. We seriously can't afford to confuse readers. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 12:05, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I didn't think about noting whether or not they were obtainable.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 12:13, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:Here's something that can help. You can [http://www.gtasavegames.com/savegames/Vice_City download save games] that allow you to access any mission in the game. It should make the job of reaching the vehicles much easier. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 12:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I think I will try it out.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 20:40, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
And do you think you could get an image of the white Walton from GTA San Andreas? I already got an image of the one from Vice City, and I thought the section on the GTA SA variant could use it. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 20:55, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
==Special Vehicles==
:''Imported from [[Talk:Special Vehicles#Change Format|User talk:Gboyers#Special Vehicles]]''.
Do you think that the special vehicles page should be laid out in different articles to the corresponding game?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 09:07, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure. Having pages like [[Special Vehicles in GTA San Andreas]] would mean repeating a lot of the information (explaining that these are BP/DP/unobtainable etc), and they'd have to go back to [[Special Vehicles]] every to figure out how to destroy them anyway. At the most, we could move the code to sub-pages to make it easier to work on and edit? [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:22, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
What about putting the same vehicle in different columns. Like instead of the same vehicle on one column with all of the abilities marked in brackets, would it be easier to read if they were separated?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:45, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
:I don't understand. Do you mean having one table for every special vehicle (no matter which game)? Or do you mean have DP/EP/FP/BP as separate columns? That wouldn't be a big change, the page would still be huge. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 22:04, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
Like this:
{| class="wikitable"
! Vehicle
! Properties
! Mission
|-
| Cheetah
| Permanent Color
| Grand Theft Auto
|-
| Cheetah
| BP FP EP
| Turismo
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! Vehicle
! Properties
! Mission
|-
| Cheetah
| Permanant Color/ BP FP EP
| Grand Theft Auto (permanent color)/Turismo (FP EP BP)
|-
|}
You've put the information twice in there. You might as well do this - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:38, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable"
! Vehicle
! Abilities
! Mission
|-
!rowspan=2| Cheetah
|Permanent color
| [[Grand Theft Auto (mission)]]
|-
|FP EP BP
|[[Turismo (mission)]]
|}
:Got it, thanks.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
Just altered it slightly. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:02, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
==Pages==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Gboyers#Pages]]''.
Could you tell me if these pages should be deleted: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Predator film series The Terminators, because I already tagged them for deletion. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 07:27, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes they should be deleted, but the information might be able to go somewhere else. For example, a list of examples of Player Modifications, sorted by type (new clothes, new model, new accessories) and group (eg video game characters). [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:26, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Do you mean it should be on the [[Skins]] page, like an external link or something?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 12:02, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
:I think there should be a page all about skin mods, with a list of SOME examples. That page could include not just skins, but also complete model replacements, swapping models, and clothing item replacements. We should NOT list every skin mod ever. We should NOT have a page for individual skin mods (unless that are ''really'' important. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 16:18, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
==Consistency 2==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Gboyers#Consistency 2]]''.
Hi, I was wondering If I could get your opinion regarding an idea for image names as discussed [[Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Consistency#Image_names|here]]. I know this may be a little late but I just now thought of it. Oh, and in the statement above (I don't think this has anything to do with it) but have you ever noticed you could be from one wiki with no staff privileges and you could go on another, and move pages (excluding images).--<font color="darkblue">'''[[:User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]]'''</font><sup>''[[User talk:Gta-mysteries|Talk page]]''</sup> 04:07, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
:Most wikis allow users to move (aka rename) pages, even if they're not staff. For example, looking [http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights here], that "Users" have the "Move pages" right. This is not something we allow on GTW, as it is easy enough to add the {{template|move}} tag and get staff to do it. This prevents a lot of vandalism! [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 04:13, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
==Help==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Chimpso#Help]]''.
I'm trying to get PlayStation Network on my PS3, but I don't know how, and I was wondering if you could help me. I would really appreciate it. Thanks--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 03:55, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I wish that I could help but I don't have a PS3. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 03:59, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, well thanks anyway.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 04:02, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
==[[Upstate Liberty]]==
:''First two lines Imported from [[User talk:ZS#Upstate Liberty]], and last line imported from [[User talk:Spaceeinstein#Upstate Liberty]]''.
:I was wondering if you help me finish the Upstate page. I need help with some re-wording and possibly the number of images.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:28, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
::I'll look into that sometime later. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 20:48, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, I was just curious, could you help me finish the Upstate Liberty page. [[User:ZS|ZS]] is helping to, and I just wanted to get all the help I can on that page? Thanks :)--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:27, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
<no reply>
==RE:==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Silver Infernus#RE:]]''.
:Yeah he's been renaming the images for [[Grand Theft Wiki:Consistency|consistency]] reasons. And yeah images should all share the same pattern like <code>Image:Vc the driver.jpg</code> renamed to <code>TheDriver-GTAVC.jpg</code>--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:09, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
==Files==
:''Imported from [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Spaceeinstein&action=edit&oldid=180762 User talk:Spaceeinstein#Files]''.
Do you know how to make an OGG file?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:01, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
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==Vandalism==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS#Vandalism]]''.
:You might wanna take a look at this [[Special:Undelete/SUCK_MY_COCK|page]].--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 20:54, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
::Someone already deleted it. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 07:01, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
==[[The Well Stacked Pizza Co.]]==
:''Imported from [[User talk:ZS#The Well Stacked Pizza Co.]]''.
:Should there only be one image of the pizza shop in GTA Vice City? They pretty much share the same design.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 09:17, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
::The images are meant to provide an illustration of the restaurant's position in its surroundings, so that acceptable even if the building is of the same design. And there are minor differences, such as the locations or the lack of [[Pizza Boy]]s. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:52, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
==Vehicles==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Hardrock182#Hello again]]''.
I am trying to make pictures of all of the special vehicles and I was wondering how you get a good picture of one.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:13, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
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== A Question ==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Bluesboyjr#A Question]]''.
:I need to ask you something, do you intend on staying here? Just curious.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 18:24, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
::If by "staying here" you mean staying a contributing GTWiki User, than yes. --[[User:Bluesboyjr|Bluesboyjr]] 19:04, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
==Big Smoke's Ghost==
:''Imported from [[User talk:Creekside20985#Big smokes ghost]]''.
:Could you refrain from recreating the [[GTA_Sanandreas_Myths,_Bigsmokes_Ghost.]] page. It's already covered in [[Myths in GTA San Andreas]]. Instead of this shouldn't it be explained on that page. If you want you can copy the info real quick before it's second deletion. Thanks.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:49, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
:Actually it looks more like a duplicate page of [[Big Smoke]] could you confirm this?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:51, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
== Vehicles ==
:Could you get some pictures of some special vehicles from GTA San Andreas please. I can't do it myself because of my computer resolution. If so they are the green Pizza Boy from Ice Cold Killa, the green Packer from Cop Wheels, the SWAT Tank from End of the Line, the three Vortexes, and the BF Injection from Cut Throat Business, and the other two Campers in Jizzy. Thanks --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:12, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable"
! Vehicle
! Mission
|-
| Pizza Boy
| Ice Cold Killa
|-
| Packer
| Cop Wheels
|-
| Campers
| Jizzy
|-
| Vortexes
| Cut Throat Business
|-
| BF Injection
| Cut Throat Business
|}
----
Thanks for the reply. As you know, there is a image in the SWAT truck article. And can you tell me each vehicle for each mission please?<br />
|[[User:0ComeKillLah|0ComeKillLah, Meh]]|[[User talk:0ComeKillLah|Talk to me!]]| 05:54, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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I have seen your images and it needs some adjustment on the resolution. Tell me, what is your computer resolution?
|[[User:0ComeKillLah|0ComeKillLah, Meh]]|[[User talk:0ComeKillLah|Talk to me!]]| 10:18, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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My resolution on GTA III, GTA VC, and GTA SA is good, it's a 1200x800x32. I also use a 1400x900 for GTA SA, So it's no such much as the resolution it's just the graphics in a way.
----
Ok, for somehow, I have resized two of your images. Look at them below.
<center><gallery><br />
File:Pizzaboy-GTASA-IceColdKilla-front.jpg|Resized.<br />
File:Packer-GTASA-Cop Wheels-side.png|Resized too.<br />
</gallery><br />
</center>
Anyways, the Campers and Vortexes from missions are done by ZS and they looked fine. And the BF Injection, cropped by you, looks also fine.<br />
Feel free to tell me for more images. But not now, have problems with grapical card. =/<br />
|[[User:0ComeKillLah|0ComeKillLah, Meh]]|[[User talk:0ComeKillLah|Talk to me!]]| 13:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
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