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Raymond Boccino
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Appearances	GTA IV ; The Lost and Damned
Full Name	Raymond Boccino
Aliases	Ray
Status	Deceased
Gender	Gender::Male
Date of Birth	1976
Place of Birth	Westdyke, Alderney
Date of Death	2008
Age at Death	32
Nationality	American
Home	Algonquin, Liberty City
Main Affiliations	Pegorino Family (until 2008) ; The Lost Brotherhood (2008); The Irish mob (until 2008) ; Niko Bellic (2008) ; Ray's Goon (until 2008)
Vehicles	Black Oracle
Businesses	Drusilla's (until 2008); Waste Management (until 2008)
Voiced by	Joe Barbara
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Raymond "Ray" Boccino is a character in the HD Universe and a senior capo in the Alderney-based Pegorino Family who appears in Grand Theft Auto IV and The Lost and Damned. He was introduced to protagonist Niko Bellic through Irish hood Patrick McReary in 2008.

But can I trust you? Hmm? Why go through all this? Why stick your neck out? Why do all this work?
Ray talking to Niko Bellic.

Biography

Pre-2008

Ray Boccino was born to an Italian-American family in Westdyke, Alderney in 1976. Not much is known about Ray's life prior to 2008 except that he was involved in a lot of small-time crimes in the 90s and joined the Pegorino Family, developing an intense rivalry with Phil Bell. Boccino eventually rose in the ranks in the Pegorino organization, become a Caporegime. Despite his status, Don James Pegorino held a negative view of Ray due to his inability to complete his operations.

2008

Boccino is first introduced chronologically while speaking to Billy Grey in the Lost MC Clubhouse after selling the biker gang some weapons, specifically grenade launchers. He is introduced to Johnny Klebitz and then takes off.

Later on, during the Lost MC civil war, Ray meets up with Johnny and Lost members Jim Fitzgerald, Terry Thorpe, and Clay Simons to discuss the situation with them. He explains that the war is bad for his business and that he needs a "steady flow of merchandise". Ray reveals the location of Brian Jeremy and tells them to end the war for good.

A while later Ray employs Irish hood Patrick McReary to steal a truck load of meds by the docks off a group of Triads, Patrick in turn hires previously aquainted gun-for-hire Niko Bellic to help him.

Boccino shows up at his lock-up after Niko Bellic and Patrick McReary succesfully steal and deliver the truck, and soon after Ray calls Niko to come do some work for him. Ray's first job for Niko is to murder Teddy Benavidez, a Dominican gangster who owes Ray a lot of money, and hasn't paid up.

Around this time Boccino gets word that some pricey diamonds are being sold to nightclub owner Anthony Prince just off the Platypus in East Hook. Greed takes over, and Ray dicides he wants them. He gets his "friend" Ashley Butler to get ahold of Johnny Klebitz and get him to Drusilla's. When Johnny arrives Ray orders him to steal the diamonds off Gay Tony.

Johnny successfully steals the diamonds, and Ray orders him to put the diamonds in two seperate sets of trash bags in two seperate alley ways in Algonquin. Immediatley after this, Ray orders Bellic, along with Joe DiLeo, Johnny Barbosa and Luca Silvestri, to retrieve the diamonds from the trash bags Johnny had just hid them in.

When DiLeo, Barbosa and Silvestri attempt to steal the diamonds for themselves and flee to Las Venturas, Boccino sends Bellic to retrieve them. Niko kills them, and meets up with Ray in Middle Park to give him the diamonds.

After finding a buyer, Ray waits for Niko at Drusilla's, when he arrives they have a short heated confrontation, but they finally come to terms and Ray ends up giving him the diamonds, sending him off to the Libertonian to help with the deal, also with the promise that Ray will help Niko find a man named Florian Cravic. Ray calls up Johnny Klebitz as Niko leaves, and tells him to head to the Libertonian to wait for Niko.

Niko and Johnny attempt to sell the diamonds to Jewish Mob associates Issac Roth and Mori Green, however, Anthony "Gay Tony" Prince's best friend and personal bodyguard Luis Fernando Lopez ambushes the deal and takes the diamonds after Tony had gotten word about the diamond deal.

In the confusion of the ambush Klebitz decides to betray Boccino and steals all of the money for himself and the Lost MC, and Niko is left with nothing. Niko calls Boccino to inform him of the ambush, that Johnny has the money, and that he isn't sure who got the diamonds. Immediately after Ray calls Johnny to confirm he still has the money, but Johnny denies this, having given the money to Jim Fitzgerald for safe keeping.

A short time later Boccino decides that Johnny did take the money, he kidnaps Jim Fitzgerald, has him tied up in the Drusilla's basement, and has a goon torture him with a blow torch, attempting to extract information on the two million. He uses Jim's cellphone to text Johnny and lure him to Drusilla's where he attempts to hold Johnny as well. Jim cuts his rope loose with a hidden exacto-knife and grabs hold of Boccino's goon, Johnny kicks Rays gun away, Jim slits the goon's throat and the two escape Drusilla's.

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Ray ordering Johnny to the basement of Drusilla's at gunpoint.

Boccino immediately calls up associate Phil Bell for a sit-down and soon after sends Bellic to murder Fitzgerald and orders his crew to find and kill Klebitz.

Klebitz survives the attack, however Jim isn't so lucky. Johnny plans to retaliate, but is told not to by Congressman Thomas Stubbs III, who tells Klebitz that Boccino and the Pegorino crime family are under surveillance and that half of the organization would be "either arrested or killed within a month."

Isaac Roth begins to blame the ambushed diamond deal on Boccino and threatens to have him killed. In retaliation, Boccino again orders Bellic to murder Roth at Roth's penthouse at the Majestic Hotel. Afterwards, Boccino arranges an apartment in Alderney City for Bellic so he can can "keep a closer eye on him." Niko Bellic refuses to do anymore work for Boccino from this point on.

Later in the game as the Pegorino family's affairs fall further into turmoil. Things are heating up between Ray and Phil Bell as both fight each other to the top of their mafia food-chain. Jimmy Pegorino decides to send a message to any possible informants in the organization and orders Bellic to murder Boccino, believing he is an informant. Niko goes to where Ray is hanging around, and while he and some goons are driving to his auto-shop, he and his associates are murdered by Niko. (The player may choose how to go about this).

Joe Barbara voiced Ray Boccino.

Mission appearances

GTA IV

Harbouring a Grudge
A Long Way to Fall (Boss)
Taking in the Trash (Boss)
Meltdown (Boss)
Museum Piece (Boss)
No Way on the Subway (Boss)
Late Checkout
Weekend at Florian's (Boss and Voice only)
Truck Hustle
Pegorino's Pride
Payback (Voice only)
Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend (Voice only, only if Pest Control is not completed yet)
Pest Control (Killed)

The Lost and Damned

Murders committed

Brian Jeremy - (locates Brian for Johnny Klebitz so he can be killed, and so he can continue selling guns)
Teddy Benevidez - (hired Niko Bellic to kill him for not paying a debt)
Jim Fitzgerald - (hired Niko Bellic to kill him and Johnny for stealing 2 million dollars from him. Johnny is not present)
Isaac Roth - (hired Niko Bellic to kill him for threatening to kill Ray)

LCPD Database record

Surname: Boccino

First Name: Ray

Age: 32

Place of Birth: Westdyke, Alderney

Affiliations: Pegorino Crime Syndicate

Criminal Record:

1990 - Possession of stolen property
1991 - Grand larceny
1995 - Hijacking
1999 - Burglary

Wanted For: Racketeering

Trivia

During Pest Control, Niko is able to get Ray out of the car by killing the driver of the car, but he'll start shooting the player with a Combat Shotgun.
Ray as a character is similar to Mikey Palmice from The Sopranos.
Stubbs makes references to Ray's eventual fate in GTA IV. He states that he would "either be dead or in jail in the next few months", foreshadowing Niko's killing of him under Jimmy Pegorino's orders.
The Ballad of Gay Tony is the only game in the GTA IV trilogy in which Ray makes no appearence whatsoever and is not mentioned once.

Gallery

GTA IV game art of Ray Boccino.
Ray Boccino in The Lost and Damned, who appears with a more casual outfit during the first half of the storyline.

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+|voice = [[Joe Barbara]]
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-'''Ray Boccino''' is a character introduced in [[Grand Theft Auto IV]], also appearing in [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned]].
+'''Raymond "Ray" Boccino''' is a character in the [[HD Universe]] and a senior [[capo]] in the [[Alderney]]-based [[Pegorino Family]] who appears in [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] and [[The Lost and Damned]]. He was introduced to protagonist [[Niko Bellic]] through Irish hood [[Patrick McReary]] in [[2008]].
-Ray Boccino was born in [[Westdyke]], [[Alderney]], and is the thirty-two year old [[Caporegime|capo]] of Alderney's [[Pegorino Family]]. Boccino is often seen outside Pegorino territory, at [[Drusilla's]], a restaurant in [[Algonquin]]. He conducts the Pegorino Family's relations with smaller gangs, such as the [[McReary Mob]], on behalf of Don [[Jimmy Pegorino]], but is also involved in activities outside the Pegorino Family, leading the Don to distrust him. Boccino also has an uneasy relationship with Pegorino Family associate [[Phil Bell]].
+{{tocquote|But can I trust you? Hmm? Why go through all this? Why stick your neck out? Why do all this work?| Ray talking to [[Niko Bellic]].|}}
-Ray Boccino is introduced to [[Niko Bellic]] by [[Patrick McReary]]; he first [[A Long Way to Fall|employs Niko to kill a former friend]], [[Teddy Benavidez]]. He later [[Taking in the Trash|has Niko collect diamonds]] alongside Pegorino Family associates [[Joseph DiLeo]], [[Johnny Barbosa]] and [[Luca Silvestri]], however these three steal the diamonds for themselves. Boccino then [[Meltdown|hires Niko to retrieve the diamonds]], but is apparently dismayed when Niko kills Joseph, Johnny and Luca in the course of the retrieval.
-Boccino then has Niko and the acting leader of [[The Lost Brotherhood]], [[Johnny Klebitz]], attempt to sell the diamonds to [[Isaac Roth]] and [[Mori Green]] of the [[Jewish Mob]] for several million dollars. The deal, however, is ambushed by the [[Ancelotti Family]], and Klebitz steals the money for the Lost. Boccino, in retaliation, kidnaps Lost member [[Jim Fitzgerald]], and has him tortured; Fitzgerald escapes with the aid of Johnny, killing one of Boccino's men in the process. Seeking revenge, Ray [[No Way on the Subway|sends Niko to kill some members of The Lost Brotherhood]] (including Fitzgerald), and sends several squads of hitmen after Johnny. Johnny survives, and considers attacking Boccino, but is told to back down by [[Thomas Stubbs III]], who tells him that Boccino and the Pegorinos were being watched, and that all would be either arrested or killed within a month.
+==Biography==
+===Pre-2008===
+Ray Boccino was born to an Italian-American family in [[Westdyke]], [[Alderney]] in [[1976]]. Not much is known about Ray's life prior to 2008 except that he was involved in a lot of small-time crimes in the 90s and joined the [[Pegorino Family]], developing an intense rivalry with [[Phil Bell]]. Boccino eventually rose in the ranks in the Pegorino organization, become a Caporegime. Despite his status, [[Don]] [[James Pegorino]] held a negative view of Ray due to his inability to complete his operations.
-Boccino [[Weekend at Florian's|helps Niko find]] [[Bernie Crane|Florian Cravic]]. Meanwhile, Isaac Roth, blaming the failed diamond deal on Boccino, threatens to kill him, so Boccino then [[Late Checkout|sends Niko to kill Roth]] at the [[Majestic Hotel]]. Afterwards, Boccino sets up an apartment for Niko in [[Alderney City]], wanting to keep Niko close by. As the Pegorino Family's affairs are put further into turmoil and the police draw closer, Jimmy Pegorino decides it is necessary to send a message to any possible rats in his organization; he believes that Ray is a rat and [[Pest Control|has Niko kill him]] while he and his bodyguards are driving to a chop shop in [[BOABO]].
+===2008===
+Boccino is first introduced chronologically while speaking to [[Billy Grey]] in the [[Lost MC Clubhouse]] after selling the biker gang some weapons, specifically [[grenade launcher]]s. He is introduced to [[Johnny Klebitz]] and then takes off.
-Ray Boccino is voiced by Joe Barbara.
+Later on, during the Lost MC civil war, Ray meets up with Johnny and Lost members [[Jim Fitzgerald]], [[Terry Thorpe]], and [[Clay Simons]] to discuss the situation with them. He explains that the war is bad for his business and that he needs a "steady flow of merchandise". Ray reveals the location of [[Brian Jeremy]] and tells them to end the war for good.
-==Mission Appearances==
+A while later Ray employs Irish hood [[Patrick McReary]] to steal a truck load of meds by the docks off a group of Triads, Patrick in turn hires previously aquainted gun-for-hire [[Niko Bellic]] to help him.
-=== Grand Theft Auto IV ===
+Boccino shows up at his lock-up after Niko Bellic and Patrick McReary succesfully steal and deliver the truck, and soon after Ray calls Niko to come do some work for him. Ray's first job for Niko is to murder [[Teddy Benavidez]], a Dominican gangster who owes Ray a lot of money, and hasn't paid up.
-*[[A Long Way to Fall]] (Boss)
+Around this time Boccino gets word that some pricey [[diamonds]] are being sold to nightclub owner [[Anthony Prince]] just off the [[Platypus]] in [[East Hook]]. Greed takes over, and Ray dicides he wants them. He gets his "friend" [[Ashley Butler]] to get ahold of Johnny Klebitz and get him to [[Drusilla's]]. When Johnny arrives Ray orders him to steal the diamonds off Gay Tony.
-*[[Taking in the Trash]] (Boss)
-*[[Meltdown]] (Boss)
-*[[Museum Piece]] (Boss)
-*[[No Way on the Subway]] (Boss)
-*[[Late Checkout]] (Boss)
-*[[Harbouring a Grudge]]
-*[[Truck Hustle]]
-*[[Pegorino's Pride]]&nbsp;
-*[[Pest Control]] (killed)
-=== The Lost and&nbsp;Damned ===
+Johnny successfully steals the diamonds, and Ray orders him to put the diamonds in two seperate sets of trash bags in two seperate alley ways in [[Algonquin]]. Immediatley after this, Ray orders Bellic, along with Joe DiLeo, [[Johnny Barbosa]] and [[Luca Silvestri]], to retrieve the diamonds from the trash bags Johnny had just hid them in.
-*[[Action/Reaction]]
-*[[Bad Standing]]
+When DiLeo, Barbosa and Silvestri attempt to steal the diamonds for themselves and flee to [[Las Venturas]], Boccino sends Bellic to retrieve them. Niko kills them, and meets up with Ray in [[Middle Park]] to give him the diamonds.
-*[[Diamonds in the Rough]]&nbsp;(Boss)
+After finding a buyer, Ray waits for Niko at Drusilla's, when he arrives they have a short heated confrontation, but they finally come to terms and Ray ends up giving him the diamonds, sending him off to the Libertonian to help with the deal, also with the promise that Ray will help Niko find a man named [[Florian Cravic]]. Ray calls up Johnny Klebitz as Niko leaves, and tells him to head to the Libertonian to wait for Niko.
-*[[Collector's Item]] (Boss)
-*Was it Worth it?
-==[[LCPD in GTA IV Era|LCPD]] Database Information==
+Niko and Johnny attempt to sell the diamonds to Jewish Mob associates [[Issac Roth]] and [[Mori Green]], however, Anthony "Gay Tony" Prince's best friend and personal bodyguard [[Luis Fernando Lopez]] ambushes the deal and takes the diamonds after Tony had gotten word about the diamond deal.
-'''Surname:'''
+In the confusion of the ambush Klebitz decides to betray Boccino and steals all of the money for himself and the Lost MC, and Niko is left with nothing. Niko calls Boccino to inform him of the ambush, that Johnny has the money, and that he isn't sure who got the diamonds. Immediately after Ray calls Johnny to confirm he still has the money, but Johnny denies this, having given the money to Jim Fitzgerald for safe keeping.
-Boccino
+A short time later Boccino decides that Johnny did take the money, he kidnaps Jim Fitzgerald, has him tied up in the Drusilla's basement, and has [[Ray's Goon|a goon]] torture him with a blow torch, attempting to extract information on the two million. He uses Jim's cellphone to text Johnny and lure him to Drusilla's where he attempts to hold Johnny as well. Jim cuts his rope loose with a hidden exacto-knife and grabs hold of Boccino's goon, Johnny kicks Rays gun away, Jim slits the goon's throat and the two escape Drusilla's.
+[[Image:JohnnyCaptive WasitWorthit TLAD.JPG|thumb|left|250px|Ray ordering Johnny to the basement of Drusilla's at gunpoint.]]
+Boccino immediately calls up associate [[Phil Bell]] for a sit-down and soon after sends Bellic to murder Fitzgerald and orders his crew to find and kill Klebitz.
-'''First Name:'''
+Klebitz survives the attack, however Jim isn't so lucky. Johnny plans to retaliate, but is told not to by Congressman [[Thomas Stubbs III]], who tells Klebitz that Boccino and the Pegorino crime family are under surveillance and that half of the organization would be "either arrested or killed within a month."
-Ray
+Isaac Roth begins to blame the ambushed diamond deal on Boccino and threatens to have him killed. In retaliation, Boccino again orders Bellic to murder Roth at Roth's penthouse at the [[Majestic Hotel]]. Afterwards, Boccino arranges an apartment in [[Alderney City]] for Bellic so he can can "keep a closer eye on him." Niko Bellic refuses to do anymore work for Boccino from this point on.
-'''Age:'''
+Later in the game as the Pegorino family's affairs fall further into turmoil. Things are heating up between Ray and Phil Bell as both fight each other to the top of their mafia food-chain. [[Jimmy Pegorino]] decides to send a message to any possible informants in the organization and orders Bellic to murder Boccino, believing he is an informant. Niko goes to where Ray is hanging around, and while he and some goons are driving to his auto-shop, he and his associates are murdered by Niko. (The player may choose how to go about this).
+[[Joe Barbara]] voiced Ray Boccino.
-'''Place of Birth:'''
+==Mission appearances==
+;GTA IV
+*[[Harbouring a Grudge]]
+*[[A Long Way to Fall]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[Taking in the Trash]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[Meltdown (GTA IV)|Meltdown]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[Museum Piece]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[No Way on the Subway]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[Late Checkout]]
+*[[Weekend at Florian's]]<small> (Boss and Voice only)</small>
+*[[Truck Hustle]]
+*[[Pegorino's Pride]]
+*[[Payback (GTA IV)|Payback]] <small>(Voice only)</small>
+*[[Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend]] <small>(Voice only, only if Pest Control is not completed yet)</small>
+*[[Pest Control]] <small>(Killed) </small>
-Westdyke, Alderney
+;The Lost and Damned
+*[[Action/Reaction]]
+*[[Bad Standing]]
+*[[Diamonds in the Rough]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[Collector's Item]] <small>(Boss) </small>
+*[[Was It Worth It?]]
+==Murders committed==
+*[[Brian Jeremy]] - <small>(locates Brian for [[Johnny Klebitz]] so he can be killed, and so he can continue selling guns)</small>
+*[[Teddy Benevidez]] - <small>(hired [[Niko Bellic]] to kill him for not paying a debt)</small>
+*[[Jim Fitzgerald]] - <small>(hired Niko Bellic to kill him and Johnny for stealing 2 million dollars from him. Johnny is not present)</small>
+*[[Isaac Roth]] - <small>(hired Niko Bellic to kill him for threatening to kill Ray)</small>
-'''Affiliations:'''
-Pegorino Crime Syndicate
+==LCPD Database record==
+'''Surname''':
+Boccino
-'''Criminal Record:'''
+'''First Name''':
+Ray
-- Possession Stolen Property
+'''Age''':
-- Grand Larceny
+'''Place of Birth''':
+Westdyke, Alderney
-- Hijacking
+'''Affiliations''':
+Pegorino Crime Syndicate
-- Burgulary
+'''Criminal Record''':
+*1990 - Possession of stolen property
+*1991 - Grand larceny
+*1995 - Hijacking
+*1999 - Burglary
-'''Notes:'''
+'''Wanted For''': Racketeering
-*Capo with the Alderney based Pegorino Crime Syndicate.
-*Believed to be expanding operations into Algonquin.
-*Involved in criminal activities outside the Syndicate.
-*Believed to handle Jimmy Pegorino's relationship with smaller gangs such as Gerald McReary's crew in Dukes.
-*Often seen at Drusilla's restaurant in Little Italy.
 ==Trivia==
-*Should the driver of his car be killed in [[Pest Control]], Ray will get out and begin firing at Niko with a Combat Shotgun. He has no preset [[execution]].
+*During Pest Control, Niko is able to get Ray out of the car by killing the driver of the car, but he'll start shooting the player with a [[SPAS 12|Combat Shotgun]].
-*Ray is on the [[Badger]] cellphone network, as shown by the message which plays when you call him randomly.
+*Ray as a character is similar to [[wp:Mikey Palmice|Mikey Palmice]] from [[wp:The Sopranos|The Sopranos]].
+*Stubbs makes references to Ray's eventual fate in GTA IV. He states that he would "either be dead or in jail in the next few months", foreshadowing Niko's killing of him under Jimmy Pegorino's orders.
+*The Ballad of Gay Tony is the only game in the GTA IV trilogy in which Ray makes no appearence whatsoever and is not mentioned once.
-{{GTA IV Characters}}{{The Lost and Damned Characters}}
+==Gallery==
-[[nl:Ray Boccino]]
+{| align="center"
+|<gallery width="auto" perrow="4" style="font-size:95%; padding:0;" widths="180" captionalign="left">
+File:RayBoccino-GTAIV-artwork.jpg|GTA IV game art of Ray Boccino.
+File:RayBoccino-TLAD.jpg|Ray Boccino in The Lost and Damned, who appears with a more casual outfit during the first half of the storyline.
+</gallery>
+|}
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