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::I'm not talking about Vic being white. I'm talking about Pete. This is a theory that I have thought about for a long time. Now I release my thoughts and this is what I get?! I'm not saying that I'm right, it's just something to give people ideas.--Silverballer95 02:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | ::I'm not talking about Vic being white. I'm talking about Pete. This is a theory that I have thought about for a long time. Now I release my thoughts and this is what I get?! I'm not saying that I'm right, it's just something to give people ideas.--Silverballer95 02:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:A-Dust was saying that there is ''no'' evidence to suggest Pete is white. In [[Back Alley Brawll]] Lance was referring to his "dead brother" and his "white lady" (girlfriend). - [[Victor Vance|Vic]] is the "dead brother", because he died at the start of [[GTA VC]]. There is no "white brother" as you suggested - you simply misheard what Lance said. However, it would be a good suggestion if that was what he had said - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 02:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | :A-Dust was saying that there is ''no'' evidence to suggest Pete is white. In [[Back Alley Brawll]] Lance was referring to his "dead brother" and his "white lady" (girlfriend). - [[Victor Vance|Vic]] is the "dead brother", because he died at the start of [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA VC]]. There is no "white brother" as you suggested - you simply misheard what Lance said. However, it would be a good suggestion if that was what he had said - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 02:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Thanks for being more polite with it. Your probably right, but what was with his accent in the intro?--Silverballer95 03:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | :Thanks for being more polite with it. Your probably right, but what was with his accent in the intro?--Silverballer95 03:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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:::I know this discussion is old and all. But "white lady" refers to cocaine (the 20 keys stolen during the deal), Louise was not even present at the time VC was made. Also Lance is referring to the stolen stuff. Your green (meaning Tommy's money.) and "my dead brother's white lady" (his brothers cocaine.) --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 22:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC) | :::I know this discussion is old and all. But "white lady" refers to cocaine (the 20 keys stolen during the deal), Louise was not even present at the time VC was made. Also Lance is referring to the stolen stuff. Your green (meaning Tommy's money.) and "my dead brother's white lady" (his brothers cocaine.) --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 22:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Exactly. [[Louise Cassidy-Williams|Louise]] dies in 1984, as depicted by the events of [[GTA Vice City Stories]]. [[Pete Vance|Pete]], on the other hand, is ''ill'' during GTA VCS, which is why [[Victor Vance|Vic]] does the things he does, contrary to his own principles, so he can pay for Pete's medical bills. Vic then dies in 1986, as depicted by the events of [[GTA Vice City]]. [[Lance Vance|Lance]] is ''definitely'' referring to Vic as his dead brother in [[Back Alley Brawl]], as we are left uncertain as to Pete's fate. And I agree that the "white lady" refers to the cocaine stolen during the botched drug deal that sets off GTA VC. ''That'' is what Lance is ''really'' interested in, besides avenging his brother's death, as Louise has been dead and buried for 2 years. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | ::::Exactly. [[Louise Cassidy-Williams|Louise]] dies in 1984, as depicted by the events of [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories|GTA Vice City Stories]]. [[Pete Vance|Pete]], on the other hand, is ''ill'' during GTA VCS, which is why [[Victor Vance|Vic]] does the things he does, contrary to his own principles, so he can pay for Pete's medical bills. Vic then dies in 1986, as depicted by the events of [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA Vice City]]. [[Lance Vance|Lance]] is ''definitely'' referring to Vic as his dead brother in [[Back Alley Brawl]], as we are left uncertain as to Pete's fate. And I agree that the "white lady" refers to the cocaine stolen during the botched drug deal that sets off GTA VC. ''That'' is what Lance is ''really'' interested in, besides avenging his brother's death, as Louise has been dead and buried for 2 years. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::Personally I think Pete dies, because Vic doesn't have an accent, he stopped dealing drugs once he got revenge (in the end of VCS), he was pretty much retired by the end of VCS. My speculation is Vic left, Pete got the health-care he needed and could be able to deal with Lance for these things. Then Lance took over Vance Crime Family with Pete as secondary and as for the police report, well they could mistake the brother of Lance as Vic because he was the known criminal. But that's just what I think. Also for god's sake Vic never smiled at all. ''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 10:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | :::::Personally I think Pete dies, because Vic doesn't have an accent, he stopped dealing drugs once he got revenge (in the end of VCS), he was pretty much retired by the end of VCS. My speculation is Vic left, Pete got the health-care he needed and could be able to deal with Lance for these things. Then Lance took over Vance Crime Family with Pete as secondary and as for the police report, well they could mistake the brother of Lance as Vic because he was the known criminal. But that's just what I think. Also for god's sake Vic never smiled at all. ''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 10:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
But isn't it confirmed that [[Victor Vance|Vic]] is the one who dies at the beginning of [[GTA Vice City]], according to the [http://www.rockstargames.com/vicecity/ official website]? Also, during GTA VC, [[Lance Vance|Lance]] mentions that his brother used to patronize him, which I assumed was in reference to Vic, as Vic had to "take care" of Lance during the events of [[GTA Vice City Stories]]. Pete is really never mentioned at all during any of the games, except in GTA VCS, and only really in passing. But I do like your speculation...it would make more sense that by 1986, Vic is no longer involved in drug deals, but then again, why is Lance not involved in the initial drug deal? What do you think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | But isn't it confirmed that [[Victor Vance|Vic]] is the one who dies at the beginning of [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA Vice City]], according to the [http://www.rockstargames.com/vicecity/ official website]? Also, during GTA VC, [[Lance Vance|Lance]] mentions that his brother used to patronize him, which I assumed was in reference to Vic, as Vic had to "take care" of Lance during the events of [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories|GTA Vice City Stories]]. Pete is really never mentioned at all during any of the games, except in GTA VCS, and only really in passing. But I do like your speculation...it would make more sense that by 1986, Vic is no longer involved in drug deals, but then again, why is Lance not involved in the initial drug deal? What do you think? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Lance is involved in the drugs deal. He is flying the helicopter. As for the whole Vic/Pete thing, it is Vic that appeared at the beginning of VC. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 21:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | :Lance is involved in the drugs deal. He is flying the helicopter. As for the whole Vic/Pete thing, it is Vic that appeared at the beginning of VC. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 21:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
::I already said my own theory for the file of Vic's at the VC website not being him actually. I repeat it again, Vic at the end of VCS said he'll never take drugs again and that he'll lay low and get out of town. Lance and him stopped their team-work and so Pete got better and Lance told him that they can work together and deal in VC by the time of their return (Vic is not in the picture, he treated Lance bad, left town and said he'll never deal anymore.) Pete agrees and so Lance flies the chopper to the deal and so Pete is supposed to do the exchange but the deal fails and Lance wants revenge on the death of his brother (Pete in this case.) and so does the story continue. That's just my 2 cents. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 13:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | ::I already said my own theory for the file of Vic's at the VC website not being him actually. I repeat it again, Vic at the end of VCS said he'll never take drugs again and that he'll lay low and get out of town. Lance and him stopped their team-work and so Pete got better and Lance told him that they can work together and deal in VC by the time of their return (Vic is not in the picture, he treated Lance bad, left town and said he'll never deal anymore.) Pete agrees and so Lance flies the chopper to the deal and so Pete is supposed to do the exchange but the deal fails and Lance wants revenge on the death of his brother (Pete in this case.) and so does the story continue. For the reason the file is mistaken, well, Lance returns to Vice with his brother (famous to be Vic) but he doesn't reveal that it's Pete so the police report makes it out to be Vic because they suspect him. That's just my 2 cents. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 13:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
I'm not going to get involved in this discussion because I don't remember the cutscene! But just my $0.02: Is there anything in the manual or, if you have the PC version, any file that could suggest who it is? [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 14:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:There is no files in "gta3.img" revealing anything with the intro cutscene. Or even have a name for it. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 16:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | |||