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{{info|I'm away for a week, so if you have any questions, please ask [[User:GuildKnight]] or another member of [[Staff]]<br>[[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)}} | {{info|I'm away for a week, so if you have any questions, please ask [[User:GuildKnight]] or another member of [[Staff]]<br>[[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)}} | ||
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:Having categories all categorised into a tree is absolutely NOT what we want. There is no way we're having that here. On Grand Theft Wiki, categories are ways to list and group similar pieces of information, to make stuff easy to find, and to make it easier to learn about particular categories. Categorisation isn't a game, and we gain nothing by having dozens of categories for the same thing. It's like having everything in its own subcategory, it just makes stuff a lot harder to find. | :Having categories all categorised into a tree is absolutely NOT what we want. There is no way we're having that here. On Grand Theft Wiki, categories are ways to list and group similar pieces of information, to make stuff easy to find, and to make it easier to learn about particular categories. Categorisation isn't a game, and we gain nothing by having dozens of categories for the same thing. It's like having everything in its own subcategory, it just makes stuff a lot harder to find. | ||
:If I want to look at a list of cars, I should be able to go to [[:Category:Vehicles]] to see every car in every game, then | :If I want to look at a list of cars, I should be able to go to [[:Category:Vehicles]] to see every car in every game, then Category:SAVehicles to look at all the cars in San Andreas. If [[:Category:Vehicles]] only had subcategories in, then stuff would be a lot harder to find. [[:Category:Vehicles]] does not need to be in another category, it is a basic element of a GTA game. If you can't find the page about [[Vehicles]] (even with redirects from things like [[Cars]]) then it's pretty hopeless, and a [[:Category:Categories]] helps you no more than [[Special:Categories]]. | ||
:Yes, we are using Sergeant's stripes for managers, I don't think we need to get into crowns, stars and half-nelsons just yet :) [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|?]]) 20:48, 5 May 2007 (BST) | :Yes, we are using Sergeant's stripes for managers, I don't think we need to get into crowns, stars and half-nelsons just yet :) [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|?]]) 20:48, 5 May 2007 (BST) | ||
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== Thanks for the Response == | == Thanks for the Response == | ||
I think I see how you do it. It confused me for a minute, because on UESP we use a separate namespace for each game. Well, I don't know much about any other games, so you might have to tag along behind me and disambig pages that would have the same name in another game (sorry). But I'd love to tackle these pages. And UESP uses a quest summary template, so the infobox mission template will be easy for me to get used to. By the way, are British spellings preferred on this wiki (i.e. "armour" instead of "armor")? --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]] 03:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | I think I see how you do it. It confused me for a minute, because on UESP we use a separate namespace for each game. Well, I don't know much about any other games, so you might have to tag along behind me and disambig pages that would have the same name in another game (sorry). But I'd love to tackle these pages. And UESP uses a quest summary template, so the infobox mission template will be easy for me to get used to. By the way, are British spellings preferred on this wiki (i.e. "armour" instead of "armor")? --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]] 03:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:I'm British, so I always write with British spellings. I appreciate the reverse is true for most of the rest of the world. Where something is the actual name/title of something, (EG a mission called "The Color Of Money"), then you must use the actual spelling verbatim, even if that is wrong in both British/American English. It doesn't particularly matter which spelling you use, but where titles involve a word that is different in British/American (eg [[Armor]]), then at least have a redirect from the alternative spelling ([[Armour]]). I suppose the best answer I can offer is consistency - if you write a page in American English, it should stay in American English; if you're editing a page written in British English, keep it in that. | :I'm British, so I always write with British spellings. I appreciate the reverse is true for most of the rest of the world. Where something is the actual name/title of something, (EG a mission called "The Color Of Money"), then you must use the actual spelling verbatim, even if that is wrong in both British/American English. It doesn't particularly matter which spelling you use, but where titles involve a word that is different in British/American (eg [[Body Armor|Armor]]), then at least have a redirect from the alternative spelling ([[Armour]]). I suppose the best answer I can offer is consistency - if you write a page in American English, it should stay in American English; if you're editing a page written in British English, keep it in that. | ||
:Thanks for tackling those pages - we definitely require massive expansion in the area of missions, and GTASA Missions are currently the most important/relevant ones. Glad to see you're hanging onto our naming structure, I appreciate the UESP one will be quite different. I suppose ours is most similar to Wikipedia, where we just have titles, and only use other namespaces for special types of page (Category, Image, Template, Policy, Help, System etc). One thing is that [[Big Smoke]] should stay the title as the character, because that is what 99% of visitors to that page will want, but with a "see also" line at the top (indented italics) for [[Big Smoke (Mission)]]. I think [[In The Beginning...]] is the only major title clash we'll have with missions - apart from [[Side Missions]] (side quests?) like [[Vigilante]], [[Paramedic]] etc. Keep up the good work - [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gboyers Gboyers] ([http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gboyers ?]) 12:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | :Thanks for tackling those pages - we definitely require massive expansion in the area of missions, and GTASA Missions are currently the most important/relevant ones. Glad to see you're hanging onto our naming structure, I appreciate the UESP one will be quite different. I suppose ours is most similar to Wikipedia, where we just have titles, and only use other namespaces for special types of page (Category, Image, Template, Policy, Help, System etc). One thing is that [[Big Smoke]] should stay the title as the character, because that is what 99% of visitors to that page will want, but with a "see also" line at the top (indented italics) for [[Big Smoke (Mission)]]. I think [[In The Beginning...]] is the only major title clash we'll have with missions - apart from [[Side Missions]] (side quests?) like [[Vigilante]], [[Paramedic]] etc. Keep up the good work - [http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gboyers Gboyers] ([http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gboyers ?]) 12:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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:: Hiya, I have one more question for ya. I need 4 "jump links" that will show up at the top of the wiki tab on the Gamespot GTA page. These should be links to the most popular or useful content. Can you suggest these? Feel free to put them here.. I have watched this page [[w:User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[w:User talk:Angies|talk]]) 00:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | :: Hiya, I have one more question for ya. I need 4 "jump links" that will show up at the top of the wiki tab on the Gamespot GTA page. These should be links to the most popular or useful content. Can you suggest these? Feel free to put them here.. I have watched this page [[w:User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[w:User talk:Angies|talk]]) 00:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
Hey again - For jump links I recommend [[GTA IV]], [[Liberty City in GTA IV]] (abbv: Liberty City, alt: [[Liberty City]]), [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] (abbv: GTA SA / GTA San Andreas) (unless this section of gamespot is exclusively about GTA IV), [[Modifications]] (there are plans to rebuild this page in the near future), and possibly [[Vehicles]] (if a previous one is rejected). | Hey again - For jump links I recommend [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]], [[Liberty City in GTA IV]] (abbv: Liberty City, alt: [[Liberty City]]), [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] (abbv: GTA SA / GTA San Andreas) (unless this section of gamespot is exclusively about GTA IV), [[Modifications]] (there are plans to rebuild this page in the near future), and possibly [[Vehicles]] (if a previous one is rejected). | ||
The [[FA|Featured Article]] system has been rebuilt as requested, and we'll be adding more to the list this week. | The [[FA|Featured Article]] system has been rebuilt as requested, and we'll be adding more to the list this week. | ||
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:::If I might butt in here for a second, I would make the following suggestions: | :::If I might butt in here for a second, I would make the following suggestions: | ||
:::*'''[[GTA IV]]:''' for obvious reasons | :::*'''[[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]]:''' for obvious reasons | ||
:::*'''[[GTA San Andreas]]:''' the latest major platform game, and the most likely to generate interest | :::*'''[[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]]:''' the latest major platform game, and the most likely to generate interest | ||
:::*'''[[Vehicles]]:''' I think this should '''definitely''' be included; after all, it is "Grand Theft ''Auto''" | :::*'''[[Vehicles]]:''' I think this should '''definitely''' be included; after all, it is "Grand Theft ''Auto''" | ||
:::*'''[[Cheats]]:''' not my favorite aspect of the wiki, but likely to get ''a lot'' of interest | :::*'''[[Cheats]]:''' not my favorite aspect of the wiki, but likely to get ''a lot'' of interest | ||
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::OK, got it. Thanks! [[User:Eganio|Eganio]] 21:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | ::OK, got it. Thanks! [[User:Eganio|Eganio]] 21:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
Hello, I hope you're feeling better! I saw some recent activity on your end, so I thought I would drop you a line. If it's all the same to you, I am going to focus my efforts mainly on cleaning up and creating missing articles for [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA:SA]], and eventually [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA:VC]], as I know these games the best, and am trying to avoid seeing too much information on [[GTA IV]], which seems to have sparked a flood of new users and edits. I have to wait until I can afford the PS3, so I'm trying not to fall victim to spoliers! Along these lines, I have been patrolling recent edits for the past few days, and most seem to be on articles pertaining to GTA IV, considering its recent release. This is not to say I don't want to patrol recent edits (which I am more than happy to do), just that I find myself at a bit of a disadvantage, not knowing whether the content of the edits is factually sound and/or relevant. I have been mainly checking to see that their general aim seems to be improving the article. | Hello, I hope you're feeling better! I saw some recent activity on your end, so I thought I would drop you a line. If it's all the same to you, I am going to focus my efforts mainly on cleaning up and creating missing articles for [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA:SA]], and eventually [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA:VC]], as I know these games the best, and am trying to avoid seeing too much information on [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]], which seems to have sparked a flood of new users and edits. I have to wait until I can afford the PS3, so I'm trying not to fall victim to spoliers! Along these lines, I have been patrolling recent edits for the past few days, and most seem to be on articles pertaining to GTA IV, considering its recent release. This is not to say I don't want to patrol recent edits (which I am more than happy to do), just that I find myself at a bit of a disadvantage, not knowing whether the content of the edits is factually sound and/or relevant. I have been mainly checking to see that their general aim seems to be improving the article. | ||
I guess what I'm asking with my long-winded post is this: are there other administrative functions that need another brain and set of hands that I might throw my efforts into (in addition to my usual edits)? In particular, are there problem articles/users that need attention? Which special pages need the most help? Etc., etc. You get the idea. Also, what is considered as spam here, how do I detect it, and how do I deal with it? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC) | I guess what I'm asking with my long-winded post is this: are there other administrative functions that need another brain and set of hands that I might throw my efforts into (in addition to my usual edits)? In particular, are there problem articles/users that need attention? Which special pages need the most help? Etc., etc. You get the idea. Also, what is considered as spam here, how do I detect it, and how do I deal with it? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Just as an FYI (in case my edit history hasn't obviated it), I have taken on as a global pet project the entire city of [[San Fierro]]...may be biting off more than I can chew, but I've begun at the bottom, and am working my way up, getting locations, objects/places, storyline up to snuff so that categorization, relevance to storyline, and detailed info are included everywhere. I'm trying to create a more-or-less seamless heirarchy and a continuity with respect to readers being able to jump from article-to-article as they read about San Fierro and how the story unfolds therein (and how the player's actions can contribute, etc.). I have been trying to conform to the categorization guidelines listed at the top of the [[:Category:Locations]] page, i.e. subcategorizing as necessary. If you have the time, please let me know if my comprehension of the guidelines seems off, as I was a little uncertain at first, but think I have the gist of it now. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC) | Just as an FYI (in case my edit history hasn't obviated it), I have taken on as a global pet project the entire city of [[San Fierro]]...may be biting off more than I can chew, but I've begun at the bottom, and am working my way up, getting locations, objects/places, storyline up to snuff so that categorization, relevance to storyline, and detailed info are included everywhere. I'm trying to create a more-or-less seamless heirarchy and a continuity with respect to readers being able to jump from article-to-article as they read about San Fierro and how the story unfolds therein (and how the player's actions can contribute, etc.). I have been trying to conform to the categorization guidelines listed at the top of the [[:Category:Locations]] page, i.e. subcategorizing as necessary. If you have the time, please let me know if my comprehension of the guidelines seems off, as I was a little uncertain at first, but think I have the gist of it now. '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Adding the bottom of [[GTA IV]] to many pages== | ==Adding the bottom of [[Grand Theft Auto IV|GTA IV]] to many pages== | ||
See [[Special:Contributions/Drive-by-Sally|this]]. He/She added that to [[Liberty City in GTA IV]], [[Radio Stations in GTA IV]], [[Weapons in GTA IV]], [[Vehicles in GTA IV]], and [[Characters in GTA IV]]. It has since been removed from "Vehicles," in addition to you removing it from "Liberty City." I take it that it would be OK to remove it from all the others? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 19:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC) | See [[Special:Contributions/Drive-by-Sally|this]]. He/She added that to [[Liberty City in GTA IV]], [[Radio Stations in GTA IV]], [[Weapons in GTA IV]], [[Vehicles in GTA IV]], and [[Characters in GTA IV]]. It has since been removed from "Vehicles," in addition to you removing it from "Liberty City." I take it that it would be OK to remove it from all the others? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 19:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Please remove the unneccessary content. It seems to be an attempt at copying *something* in particular across (eg [[Template:gtaiv]], yet the user isn't sure what to copy so copies the entire footer. Clearly just an error, I'd be really grateful if it were tidied up. Thanks - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 20:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC) | :Please remove the unneccessary content. It seems to be an attempt at copying *something* in particular across (eg [[Template:gtaiv]], yet the user isn't sure what to copy so copies the entire footer. Clearly just an error, I'd be really grateful if it were tidied up. Thanks - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 20:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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==Style Guide== | ==Style Guide== | ||
Any chance you could take a look at [[User:GuildKnight/Sandbox/2|my sandbox]] before you go? I think it's ready to go live at [[Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide]]. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | Any chance you could take a look at [[User:GuildKnight/Sandbox/2|my sandbox]] before you go? I think it's ready to go live at [[Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide]]. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Main page == | |||
just to tell you [[User:Guildknight|GuildKnight]] has edited or rather trashed the main page he removed the image after moving it to the wrong part on seeing this i repared the damage also he has unprotected it i have added this page to my watchlist IMO this page should be protected | |||
:Hi, G. I am currently attempting to deal with this, and am in the process of discussing things with [[User:Chip2007|Chip2007]] and [[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]. I'm hoping this can be resolved quickly and smoothly...trying to nip it in the bud, so to speak. :-) '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== etherythings fine == | |||
i had a word to [[User:Guildknight|GuildKnight]] and explained that the image was'nt a big deal [[User:Chip2007|Chip2007]] | |||
==Social tool codebase merge live== | |||
Just wanted to let you know that the merge happened today. GTA Wiki (along with AOC and Starcraft) are now on the main wikia code base branch with final MW 1.12 candidate. Please let me know if you see any issues. | |||
[[Community_Portal#Social_tools_codebase_merge]] [[w:User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[w:User talk:Angies|talk]]) 21:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Request == | |||
Hi, G. Whenever you have a chance, would you do me a huge favor and look over [[User:Eganio/Sandbox/1|my sandbox]]? I am trying to create a detailed walkthrough for [[Key to Her Heart]], and would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks in advance! :-) '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 20:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC) | |||