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:That isn't the only issue. Bluntly, they should have their own articles IF you can write lots of stuff about them. All you can say about Uni-Tel is where it is, and what is written on the sign. You can say more about shops/buildings that are enterable or are safehouses or are involved in missions. You could fit everything about Uni-Tel into a simple list or table. Yes you are are right that it doesn't exist anywhere else, but it SHOULD be listed on "Fake shops/businesses in GTA San Andreas" or whatever - there SHOULD be a list of them, but there should NOT be individual pages UNTIL that list is complete. THEN we can consider having individual pages for SOME of the articles which are worth writing about.<br><br>As for [[Liberty City in GTA III]] - that page can have a lot written about it. Although yes, it is currently badly organised and needs to be fixed. I'm going to have [[Liberty City in the GTA III Era]] or something which details the city, then just small sections about what changed. Obviously [[Liberty City in GTA IV]] is going to be a very different article. - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 17:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | :That isn't the only issue. Bluntly, they should have their own articles IF you can write lots of stuff about them. All you can say about Uni-Tel is where it is, and what is written on the sign. You can say more about shops/buildings that are enterable or are safehouses or are involved in missions. You could fit everything about Uni-Tel into a simple list or table. Yes you are are right that it doesn't exist anywhere else, but it SHOULD be listed on "Fake shops/businesses in GTA San Andreas" or whatever - there SHOULD be a list of them, but there should NOT be individual pages UNTIL that list is complete. THEN we can consider having individual pages for SOME of the articles which are worth writing about.<br><br>As for [[Liberty City in GTA III]] - that page can have a lot written about it. Although yes, it is currently badly organised and needs to be fixed. I'm going to have [[Liberty City in the GTA III Era]] or something which details the city, then just small sections about what changed. Obviously [[Liberty City in GTA IV]] is going to be a very different article. - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 17:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Can we continue the discussion of these articles? MattyDienhoff and I think that non-functional inaccessible unimportant shops should simply be listed on a page, such as [[Business in Vice City]] or [[Businesses in Downtown Vice City]]; since nobody would ever ''want'' to read about shops such as this, as they offer no value in the game, and there could never be more than a couple of sentences and an image at most (which could fit in a table or list-page nicely). Contrastingly, A-Dust feels that everything should have its own article, just in case, and that we shouldn't start drawing the line with 'notability' criteria. | |||
I think A-Dust has a point - if we ''do'' start drawing the line, we have to be very careful where that is drawn. Else we might end up like Wikipedia, which has monnstrous notability laws that mean random editors go round deleting random pages just because they haven't heard of the subject matter. | |||
The reason I think pages like [[Uni-Tel]] should not exist on their own is that the shop has no value in game, it is inaccessible, it is never referred to (eg by characters, websites, radio stations), and there is no reason why any page on this wiki would link to it - except a list of shops in GTA San Andreas, and possibly a list of travel agents (which again, would be useless). However we should still mention everything we can about this on a big list page. The reason we keep character pages, is because you can interact with them, and you might want to know more about it, and there might be a lot more we can find out (eg from other games, websites etc). But what is essentially a box with a picture of the shop on the front is irrelevant to most players, but I think we should still list it. Thoughts? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC) | |||