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Patrolling edits has never been compulsory - its just a useful thing that helps other staff members, but I didn't realise you'd been going through and doing all of them. I haven't noticed any changes with the diffs or recent changes - perhaps youre looking at the fancy new enhanced page, not the [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hideenhanced=1 ordinary one]? Yes having inactive staff is annoying - and its always a shame when good staff disappear after a short time (like [[User:Eganio|Ed]]). I'd appreciate any bright ideas for fixing that problem? Promote more staff just in case one of them is good? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC) | Patrolling edits has never been compulsory - its just a useful thing that helps other staff members, but I didn't realise you'd been going through and doing all of them. I haven't noticed any changes with the diffs or recent changes - perhaps youre looking at the fancy new enhanced page, not the [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hideenhanced=1 ordinary one]? Yes having inactive staff is annoying - and its always a shame when good staff disappear after a short time (like [[User:Eganio|Ed]]). I'd appreciate any bright ideas for fixing that problem? Promote more staff just in case one of them is good? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I'm aware that patrolling edits are not compulsory, but to be honest, I think it should be. When I log on, I have no idea whether an edit is good or bad, unless it has been marked as patrolled, meaning I then have to go through them to ensure that no rubbish has been added. As for the skin, I use a slightly different one to the one you linked to. Nothing major, just the order the information is listed in. Also, I'm not using any new enhanced page, the one I have has been the same since the move to Wikia. | |||
:As for the staff, it is a shame. I remember having a number of staff at one point (George, Chris, 47 and Chief of Staff), and of course Ed has also left. Some things can not be avoided and take priority, so not everything can be fixed. As for ideas, I've always thought introducing task forces, similar to the clean up project, would be a good idea for the staff - to allow them to focus almost solely on areas they are interested in, with a group effort joining in for the rest. I don't think promoting endless numbers of staff is a good idea, primarily as I can only think of one user who would deserve any privileges. As for promoting staff incase their good, just look at the edits that certain members make, and you can see they would useless as staff, as they can not even edit correctly. Worse, when I have edited their edits, I've received abuse from certain people, hardly staff material. | |||
:The only, ultimate, method I can think of to keep staff is to only allow staff members to edit the wiki, which is against the sites main objective. Unless we add incentives beyond additional things (like rollback, moving pages etc). But what could they be? It is a problem that all websites face at some point, however. I can remember moderating a forum for two and a half years, and saw a number of staff come and go. Three years later, only two or three of the staff members when I left are still there. Unfortunately, things change and people use their time differently. | |||
:By the way, I think the Cleanup Project is both needed and long overdue, and might actually help keep staff around for longer. Getting tasks done will reduce the future work load. Trust me, having gone through all the uncategorised images once before, I dread having to do so again. At least when they are done, they can be kept on top of. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 01:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC) | |||