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[[File:Leatherface-GTASA-fakes.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Three fake images of [[Leatherface]] in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]], a more prominent myth in the game.]] | |||
There are a variety of '''myths''' revolving around [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]]. Most are misconceptions, made up or simply glitches/ | There are a variety of '''myths''' revolving around [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]]. Most are misconceptions, made up or simply glitches/ | ||
bugs. These stories revolve around actual locations and events in the game. People spent countless time searching for this '''myths''' and found nothing. | bugs. These stories revolve around actual locations and events in the game. People spent countless time searching for this '''myths''' and found nothing. | ||
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==Loch Ness Monster== | ==Loch Ness Monster== | ||
[[File:Fisher'sLagoon-GTASA.jpg|thumb|left|150px|[[Fisher's Lagoon]], the apparent location of the Loch Ness monster.]] | |||
The legend of the '''Loch Ness monster''' was one of the first myths to emerge. It was believed that it appears in the Fisher's Lagoon, one of the few lakes accessible by the player at the very beginning of the game. Like many other myths, this had a strong support back in 2005, but lacks any evidence or in-game references, which would seem to classify this myth as fake. It was later confirmed by a Rockstar spokesman that the 'Nessie' myth is fake. | The legend of the '''Loch Ness monster''' was one of the first myths to emerge. It was believed that it appears in the Fisher's Lagoon, one of the few lakes accessible by the player at the very beginning of the game. Like many other myths, this had a strong support back in 2005, but lacks any evidence or in-game references, which would seem to classify this myth as fake. It was later confirmed by a Rockstar spokesman that the 'Nessie' myth is fake. | ||
==UFOs== | ==UFOs== | ||
'''[[UFOs]]''' are another popular myth of GTA San Andreas. As of this time, a Rockstar spokesman was interviewed and when they asked him about UFOs he changed the subject. Later in another interview, a Rockstar spokesman said: "We did not initially put UFOs in-game. However, there may be some data still in the game we thought to have deleted." This has aroused suspicion among certain areas of the fanbase. | '''[[UFOs]]''' are another popular myth of GTA San Andreas. As of this time, a Rockstar spokesman was interviewed and when they asked him about UFOs he changed the subject. Later in another interview, a Rockstar spokesman said: "We did not initially put UFOs in-game. However, there may be some data still in the game we thought to have deleted." This has aroused suspicion among certain areas of the fanbase. ometimes on the streets, you can hear a pedestrian discuss about a UFO attack on their car. | ||
==Sharks== | ==Sharks== | ||
[[File: | [[File:Shark-GTASA-gamefiles.png|thumb|200px|Shark found in gta3.img.]] | ||
People have claimed to see sharks in the waters of [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]. They are said to be just mods, but others claim they're just rare. It is unknown if these sharks actually exist in the game, otherwise. Some have stated that sharks actually attack [[Carl Johnson]] and kill him, others say they just swim away frightened. People have actually mistaken Dolphins for Sharks because they look similar in game. Like [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City]], the sharks in GTA San Andreas are invincible and will not die from gunfire. People have said that sharks are only found underneath the [[Gant Bridge]]. The IMG tool for [[Gta3.img|gta3.img]] on [[San Andreas]] actually proves that sharks are in [[San Andreas]] because it states the shark.dff file is in the game. As seen in numerous videos, the shark doesn't even attack Carl Johnson and highly resembles a White Tip Shark. | People have claimed to see sharks in the waters of [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]. They are said to be just mods, but others claim they're just rare. It is unknown if these sharks actually exist in the game, otherwise. Some have stated that sharks actually attack [[Carl Johnson]] and kill him, others say they just swim away frightened. People have actually mistaken Dolphins for Sharks because they look similar in game. Like [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City]], the sharks in GTA San Andreas are invincible and will not die from gunfire. People have said that sharks are only found underneath the [[Gant Bridge]]. The IMG tool for [[Gta3.img|gta3.img]] on [[San Andreas]] actually proves that sharks are in [[San Andreas]] because it states the shark.dff file is in the game. As seen in numerous videos, the shark doesn't even attack Carl Johnson and highly resembles a White Tip Shark. | ||
==Rusty Wheelchair== | ==Rusty Wheelchair== | ||
[[File:Wheelchair-GTASA-Fisher'sLagoon.jpg|thumb|200px|The infamous wheelchair.]] | [[File:Wheelchair-GTASA-Fisher'sLagoon.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The infamous wheelchair.]] | ||
There's an abandoned '''wheelchair '''at the end of the wharf in [[Fisher's Lagoon]]. It uses the same texture as a waste skip in [[Bayside Marina]]. The wheelchair was believed by many to be a reference to the movie The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, as one of the youths in this movie is in a wheelchair, but is in fact more likely a reference to the Rockstar game [[Manhunt]], where it can be seen at the beginning. The following pedestrian dialog can be heard in [[Palomino Creek]]: | There's an abandoned '''wheelchair '''at the end of the wharf in [[Fisher's Lagoon]]. It uses the same texture as a waste skip in [[Bayside Marina]]. The wheelchair was believed by many to be a reference to the movie The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, as one of the youths in this movie is in a wheelchair, but is in fact more likely a reference to the Rockstar game [[Manhunt]], where it can be seen at the beginning. The following pedestrian dialog can be heard in [[Palomino Creek]]: | ||
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==Ghost Cars== | ==Ghost Cars== | ||
The '''Ghost Cars''' myth is essentially based upon the misinterpretation of a minor glitch. The myth centered on the abandoned [[Glendale|cars]], which spawn in the rural areas of [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]. If they spawn on a slope, they roll down it as if they're being driven. Some curious players investigated the cars and found that there was nobody in it, thus leading them to believe that the car was driving itself. However, there is nothing particularly strange about the vehicles themselves, as they were simply put there in case the player got stranded in the countryside without a vehicle. There is a [[Modifications|mod]] involving the [[Glendale]]s in the [[Back o Beyond]]. Once activated, players that go near a parked Glendale, the car's lights will turn on, and start attacking players (this mod also applies to the beat-up [[Sadler]] near the ghost car area). | The '''Ghost Cars''' myth is essentially based upon the misinterpretation of a minor glitch. The myth centered on the abandoned [[Glendale|cars]], which spawn in the rural areas of [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]. If they spawn on a slope, they roll down it as if they're being driven. Some curious players investigated the cars and found that there was nobody in it, thus leading them to believe that the car was driving itself. However, there is nothing particularly strange about the vehicles themselves, as they were simply put there in case the player got stranded in the countryside without a vehicle. There is a [[Modifications|mod]] involving the [[Glendale]]s in the [[Back o Beyond]]. Once activated, players that go near a parked Glendale, the car's lights will turn on, and start attacking players (this mod also applies to the beat-up [[Sadler]] near the ghost car area). | ||
Some people have also claimed to have seen a ghostly [[Vortex]] shrouded by a "ghostly mist" in the [[San Fierro]] bay area. The reason that it moves is because, like the Glendale, it spawns on a slope, and the "mist" is the result of the sand being kicked up as it slides down the beach. | Some people have also claimed to have seen a ghostly [[Vortex]] shrouded by a "ghostly mist" in the [[San Fierro]] bay area. The reason that it moves is because, like the Glendale, it spawns on a slope, and the "mist" is the result of the sand being kicked up as it slides down the beach. | ||
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Also, from time to time, a certain glitch may occur. If the driver shoots and kills the driver of a car, sometimes, the person's body may not fall out. When this happens, the car still drives itself as if the driver was never killed. The only way to stop the car is to carjack the owner and take the car as shooting the already dead body will not work. | Also, from time to time, a certain glitch may occur. If the driver shoots and kills the driver of a car, sometimes, the person's body may not fall out. When this happens, the car still drives itself as if the driver was never killed. The only way to stop the car is to carjack the owner and take the car as shooting the already dead body will not work. | ||
==Gallery== | |||
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File:Ghostcar-GTASA.jpg|A ghost car. | |||
File:Ghostboat-GTASA.jpg|A ghost baot. | |||
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==Girl from the TV/Samara== | ==Girl from the TV/Samara== | ||
This myth is also the one that did not get much support - in fact, it all has started with a video uploaded onto YouTube in 2006, featuring CJ in his living room looking around when the black girl appears from the television in the corner and disappears a second later. There is no other proof of this girl. It is believed that it is either a glitch which caused a pedestrian to spawn in the house by mistake and was removed by the game immediately, or it was a mod for the [[Personal Computer|PC]] version of GTA San Andreas. The dark figure looks very similar to a homeless pedestrian from [[San Fierro]] which has a sign that reads "God is playing with us!" on his chest - there was even a video on YouTube comparing both the TV girl and the tramp pictures. | |||
This myth is also the one that did not get much support - in fact, it all has started with a video uploaded onto YouTube in 2006, featuring CJ in his living room looking around when the black girl appears from the television in the corner and disappears a second later. There is no other proof of this girl. It is believed that it is either a glitch which caused a pedestrian to spawn in the house by mistake and was removed by the game immediately, or it was a mod for the [[PC]] version of GTA San Andreas. The dark figure looks very similar to a homeless pedestrian from [[San Fierro]] which has a sign that reads "God is playing with us!" on his chest - there was even a video on YouTube comparing both the TV girl and the tramp pictures. | |||
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File:SadakoYamamura-GTASA-myth.jpg|The girl, Sadako Yamamura, from [[:wp:Ring (film)|Ringu]]. | |||
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==Horses in Las Barrancas== | ==Horses in Las Barrancas== | ||
[[ | [[File:LasBarrancas-GTASA-horsemyth.jpg|thumb|center|627px|Screenshot showing the legend of Las Barrancas, from the San Andreas website]] | ||
The reference to horses can be found on the Rockstar website, on the [[Tierra Robada]] section of the map. When the cursor is positioned over the Las Barrancas icon, the following text can be seen at the bottom of the map: | The reference to horses can be found on the Rockstar website, on the [[Tierra Robada]] section of the map. When the cursor is positioned over the Las Barrancas icon, the following text can be seen at the bottom of the map: | ||
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==Panopticon Killer/Leatherface/Chainsaw Killer/Piggsy== | ==Panopticon Killer/Leatherface/Chainsaw Killer/Piggsy== | ||
Another strong myth of GTA San Andreas is a Chainsaw killer. He has many names such as [[Leatherface]] from ''The Texas Chainsaw Massacre'', Piggsy from another Rockstar game, ''[[Manhunt]],'' and even Hitler, but to avoid confusion this article will refer to him as The Killer. The whole idea of The Killer started when somebody said that they heard a chainsaw in [[The Panopticon]] area. Many have assumed this to be true due to the nature of the area - it looks scary when it is foggy, is full of small sheds and cut down trees and contains a [[chainsaw]] pickup. The strange sound can be heard during rainy weather on the first version of the game as a glitch. Over time, the myth has evolved, people started to find out more clues and weird objects. It is said that The Killer lives in the countryside, near the Shady Cabin in the Panopticon, he uses a chainsaw or a firearm to kill his victims, and he appears from behind the player (usually from the house) and kills him almost instantly. Although many people have claimed they have seen the killer, there is still no strong evidence to his existence. There are also many descriptions of the killer, they all differ which makes it difficult to believe that killer's existence is plausible. His existence has also been reported at Mount Chiliad, Fisher's Lagoon, Shady Cabin, and other farms.There have been sightings of Leatherface in Fisher's Lagoon near the wheelchair or the little house on the shore. Two dead bodies (a man and a woman) can be found on the road going up Mount Chiliad, implying that the killer killed them during sex. | Another strong myth of GTA San Andreas is a Chainsaw killer. He has many names such as [[Leatherface]] from ''The Texas Chainsaw Massacre'', Piggsy from another Rockstar game, ''[[Manhunt]],'' and even Hitler, but to avoid confusion this article will refer to him as The Killer. The whole idea of The Killer started when somebody said that they heard a chainsaw in [[The Panopticon]] area. Many have assumed this to be true due to the nature of the area - it looks scary when it is foggy, is full of small sheds and cut down trees and contains a [[chainsaw]] pickup. The strange sound can be heard during rainy weather on the first version of the game as a glitch. Over time, the myth has evolved, people started to find out more clues and weird objects. It is said that The Killer lives in the countryside, near the Shady Cabin in the Panopticon, he uses a chainsaw or a firearm to kill his victims, and he appears from behind the player (usually from the house) and kills him almost instantly. Although many people have claimed they have seen the killer, there is still no strong evidence to his existence. There are also many descriptions of the killer, they all differ which makes it difficult to believe that killer's existence is plausible. His existence has also been reported at Mount Chiliad, Fisher's Lagoon, Shady Cabin, and other farms.There have been sightings of Leatherface in Fisher's Lagoon near the wheelchair or the little house on the shore. Two dead bodies (a man and a woman) can be found on the road going up Mount Chiliad, implying that the killer killed them during sex. | ||
Leatherface has been proved to be a Pedestrian which spawns with a chainsaw in the Mission "[[The Meat Business]]" and it is believed to have been used by Rockstar Games outside of that mission. | Leatherface has been proved to be a Pedestrian which spawns with a chainsaw in the Mission "[[The Meat Business]]" and it is believed to have been used by Rockstar Games outside of that mission. | ||
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File:Piggsy-GTASA-actionfigure.png|A Piggsy action figure from [[Zero RC]]. | |||
File:Leatherface-GTASA-fake.jpg|A fake image of [[Leatherface]]. | |||
File:Leatherface-GTASA-fakes.jpg|Three more fake images of Leatherface. | |||
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==Serial Killer== | ==Serial Killer== | ||
[[ | [[File:TierraRobadaserialkiller-GTASA-myth.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Serial killer near his suggested house]] | ||
This myth is very similar to the Panopticon Killer. The only difference is that this man lives in the desert and uses a [[rifle]] to kill his victims. The majority of people tend to think that he lives in a small house in Tierra Robada, not far from a [[Cluckin' Bell]]. Some people have posted videos of him in [[Fort Carson]] with a combat shotgun or unarmed. He is believed to be the same man as "Mr. Trenchcoat" (see the UFOs article for more information). He can often be seen on the small dirt road next to the river, just meters away from his house, and in the Lil' Probe Inn. Though to be fair, the image presented of the "killer" is merely a pedestrian model that can be found in many other towns nearby, even multiple times over, same with any other model. People have claimed that this person starts randomly shooting and kills other pedestrians - at this moment, no evidence has been found. It is believed that this myth started when someone had a riot cheat enabled without realizing it. The Myth of the serial killer is sometimes linked with the myth of the Las Venturas desert [[Mass Grave]]. | This myth is very similar to the Panopticon Killer. The only difference is that this man lives in the desert and uses a [[rifle]] to kill his victims. The majority of people tend to think that he lives in a small house in Tierra Robada, not far from a [[Cluckin' Bell]]. Some people have posted videos of him in [[Fort Carson]] with a combat shotgun or unarmed. He is believed to be the same man as "Mr. Trenchcoat" (see the UFOs article for more information). He can often be seen on the small dirt road next to the river, just meters away from his house, and in the Lil' Probe Inn. Though to be fair, the image presented of the "killer" is merely a pedestrian model that can be found in many other towns nearby, even multiple times over, same with any other model. People have claimed that this person starts randomly shooting and kills other pedestrians - at this moment, no evidence has been found. It is believed that this myth started when someone had a riot cheat enabled without realizing it. The Myth of the serial killer is sometimes linked with the myth of the Las Venturas desert [[Mass Grave]]. | ||
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==Epsilon Cult== | ==Epsilon Cult== | ||
===Map references=== | ===Map references=== | ||
[[ | [[File:TheFarm-GTASA-farmhouse.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Blue windows of ''The Cult Farm'']] | ||
One place, "[[The Farm]]. Cult location", is shown on the map provided with GTA San Andreas. The farmhouse windows are glowing blue at night, unlike any other window in the game which glow yellow. | One place, "[[The Farm]]. Cult location", is shown on the map provided with GTA San Andreas. The farmhouse windows are glowing blue at night, unlike any other window in the game which glow yellow. | ||
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Dawn means that it has to be morning or an evening. As there are no brochures available, many refer to Rockstar's book for San Andreas. The only picture taken at dawn there is the picture of Sherman dam. Apparently, it fits the idea ideally, as it is a "pass" at the same time - it links two islands. Another proof of possible connection to Epsilon is the [http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/pc/clips/sanandreas_pc_clip1_trailer.html official GTA: SA trailer]. First few seconds feature red truck (Walton, not Sadler) travelling across the dam. This is seen by some as a possible hint to the solution to Epsilon secret. "Pass" could also mean a valley between hills or mountains. | Dawn means that it has to be morning or an evening. As there are no brochures available, many refer to Rockstar's book for San Andreas. The only picture taken at dawn there is the picture of Sherman dam. Apparently, it fits the idea ideally, as it is a "pass" at the same time - it links two islands. Another proof of possible connection to Epsilon is the [http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/pc/clips/sanandreas_pc_clip1_trailer.html official GTA: SA trailer]. First few seconds feature red truck (Walton, not Sadler) travelling across the dam. This is seen by some as a possible hint to the solution to Epsilon secret. "Pass" could also mean a valley between hills or mountains. | ||
{{quote|Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender.}}[[File: | {{quote|Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender.}}[[File:Sadler-GTASA-beater-front.jpg|thumb|Sadler]] | ||
There are a number of Sadler trucks, found around San Andreas which have been smashed. One of them can be found next to the fisherman's hut north from the abandoned airstrip, another in the forests of [[Back o' Beyond]], there are few more in other places. Picking the one near the airstrip makes more sense, as it is located most closely to the dam. Please note, that Sadlers always spawn in different colours, so you may want to come back again to make sure you have got a red one. | There are a number of Sadler trucks, found around San Andreas which have been smashed. One of them can be found next to the fisherman's hut north from the abandoned airstrip, another in the forests of [[Back o' Beyond]], there are few more in other places. Picking the one near the airstrip makes more sense, as it is located most closely to the dam. Please note, that Sadlers always spawn in different colours, so you may want to come back again to make sure you have got a red one. | ||
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{{quote|If you see the number one, then you're on your way. Only true believers of Kifflom (praise!!!) can enter the portals. So Keep listening to the trees and I am sure that you'll find your path. If you learn the true meaning of Kifflom (praise him!!!) then you can enter the golden portals of Puertas Amarillas Valley.}} | {{quote|If you see the number one, then you're on your way. Only true believers of Kifflom (praise!!!) can enter the portals. So Keep listening to the trees and I am sure that you'll find your path. If you learn the true meaning of Kifflom (praise him!!!) then you can enter the golden portals of Puertas Amarillas Valley.}} | ||
Although it is not very plausible, the author claimed to be working for | Although it is not very plausible, the author claimed to be working for Rockstar, thus making many players looking for number 1 in game or looking for the trees with weird shapes in the woods. It was believed that under certain circumstances you will be able to hear the tree talking; or, once you saw the tree ("number one" in the sequence) everything else will be revealed by the game itself without the need for player's interaction. This is often linked with [http://youtube.com/watch?v=XiOBh-NVnWQ floating tree], [http://youtube.com/watch?v=4iG3UY1zF-w walk-through tree] and [http://youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvyc2Afc0 LOD trees] which do not have anything to do with Epsilon. | ||
A noticeable fact is that jblend's statement appeared a few weeks prior to official release of San Andreas on PS2. | A noticeable fact is that jblend's statement appeared a few weeks prior to official release of San Andreas on PS2. | ||
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[[ | [[File:RedWalton-GTASA-ShermanDam-myth.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Trailer screenshot]] | ||
The "9 prostitutes" are related to one of the tenets of Epsilon: "Lie with 9 partners a week". In Lazlow's talk show Cris Formage also says: "Lie with 9 partners a week, it explains everything." | The "9 prostitutes" are related to one of the tenets of Epsilon: "Lie with 9 partners a week". In Lazlow's talk show Cris Formage also says: "Lie with 9 partners a week, it explains everything." | ||
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In the teaser video, which can be found on [http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/pc/ The official GTA SA web-site] under Media>Video>First trailer a red Walton can be seen driving across the Sherman Dam. This enforces the speculated theory that the Dam is ''the'' pass mentioned on Epsilon web-site and that this is somehow related. | In the teaser video, which can be found on [http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/pc/ The official GTA SA web-site] under Media>Video>First trailer a red Walton can be seen driving across the Sherman Dam. This enforces the speculated theory that the Dam is ''the'' pass mentioned on Epsilon web-site and that this is somehow related. | ||
Another Rumor is that of [[Blueberry | Another Rumor is that of [[Blueberry]] Where it also is believed that Epsilon takes place because of [[File:EpsilonCult-GTASA-logo.png|thumb|right|200px|Epsilon Cult trademark]]the many blue lights that can been seen at night e.g inside the barns at EasterBoard Farm, at the side of hill on the west side of [[Blueberry Acres]], under the bridge at the south end of [[Blueberry]] and the truck terminal also in the south end of [[Blueberry]]. The surprising thing about the Red County Truck Terminal is that it is the only place in the whole of San Andreas that has the words red and truck, this could be another reference to the red truck that is mentioned on the Epsilon [http://www.epsilonprogram.com/ website] . | ||
==Door in the Sky== | ==Door in the Sky== | ||
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==Big Smoke's Ghost== | ==Big Smoke's Ghost== | ||
After you killed Big Smoke and finished the last mission [[End of the Line]], the Crack Palace will still be accessible, even when a explosion took place there. If you enter the Crack Palace you'll notice there's no signs of destruction inside. There are rumors that, if you enter the Crack Palace, you'll hear Bigsmoke's voice inside or even see his ghost walking in the corridors. | |||
After you killed Big Smoke and finished the | |||
If you enter the Crack Palace you'll notice there's no signs of destruction inside. | |||
There are rumors that, if you enter the Crack Palace, you'll hear Bigsmoke's voice inside or even see his ghost walking in the corridors. | |||
== Others == | == Others == | ||
;Beverly Johnson's ghost | ;Beverly Johnson's ghost | ||
[[File:Ghostgrafitti.jpg|thumb|right|Ghost Graffiti (from left to right) it appears at evening (20:00) and disappear at morning (06:00)]] | [[File:Ghostgrafitti-GTASA.jpg|thumb|right|Ghost Graffiti (from left to right) it appears at evening (20:00) and disappear at morning (06:00)]] | ||
This myth may have started when a "ghost graffiti" texture glitch was discovered at [[Los Santos]] cemetery. Many people claim that [[Beverly Johnson|Beverly Johnson's]] ghost appears in the kitchen/living room of CJ's [[Johnson House|house]] in [[Ganton]]. | This myth may have started when a "ghost graffiti" texture glitch was discovered at [[Los Santos in GTA San Andreas|Los Santos]] cemetery. Many people claim that [[Beverly Johnson|Beverly Johnson's]] ghost appears in the kitchen/living room of CJ's [[Johnson House|house]] in [[Ganton]]. | ||
;Phonebooth and an unknown caller in the desert | ;Phonebooth and an unknown caller in the desert | ||