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Barry Thorne
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Appearances	GTA San Andreas
Full Name	Barry Thorne
Aliases	Big Bear
Status	Alive
Place of Birth	Los Santos
Nationality	American
Home	Ganton, Los Santos; Glen Park, Los Santos
Main Affiliations	Grove Street Families; B Dup; Sweet; Carl Johnson; Big Smoke; Ryder
Voiced by	Kurt Alexander
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Barry "Big Bear" Thorne, is a character in the 3D Universe who appears as a minor character in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, set in 1992. He is a long serving member of the Grove Street Families and drug user. He is voiced by Kurt Alexander.

Character history

Bear was presumably born in Ganton and later joined the Grove Street Families. He rose to a prominent position in the gang but after 1987 began to stay away from gang activities. During this time he began using drugs and was enslaved to his dealer and fellow gangster Mark "B-Dup" Wayne, often being made to do degrading chores such as being ordered to clean the toilet in front of protagonist Carl "CJ" Johnson and tertiary antagonist Lance "Ryder" Wilson.

He continues to live with Dup due to his drug addiction and moves with him into a house in Glen Park, a territory controlled by his arch rivals, the Ballas. Bear, however, continues to resent his ill treatment at the hands of Dup and, determined to get clean, stands up to Dup when backed up by Carl and Grove Street Families leader Sean "Sweet" Johnson upon their return to the streets, punching Dup before leaving to enter rehab. He is driven away by Sweet in Dup's car.

Trivia

Game files show two versions of Bear, both wearing the same clothing. One shows the model of Bear used in the game and the second shows a much fatter Bear.
Part of the original Beat Down on B Dup mission involved Carl driving Bear to a rehab centre, where he explained why he began using drugs, stating that the break up of the three families and the attempts of others to rise to power led him to stay at home and then search for adventure in drugs.
Bear was also to feature in the mission All-Terrain Take Down where he told Carl and Sweet of a Russian Mafia gangster who could inform Carl and Sweet of the location of Grove Street Families defaulter Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris. During this mission he also states that he and Dup were also cut off from Smoke's 'select circle of cats'.

Mission appearances

GTA San Andreas

Cut Mission

All-Terrain Take Down

Gallery

Big Bear shortly after punching B Dup during Beat Down on B Dup.

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+{{infobox character|
-'''Barry Thorne'''<ref name="IMDB">{{cite web | url = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383385/fullcredits#cast | title = Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas full credit list | work = Internet Movie Database | accessdate = | accessyear = }}</ref>, also known as '''Big Bear''', is a character in the [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto series]] who appears as a minor character in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]]. Thorne was voiced by Kurt Alexander, who is credited as Big Boy.<ref name="IMDB">{{cite web | url = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383385/fullcredits#cast | title = Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas full credit list | work = Internet Movie Database | accessdate = | accessyear = }}</ref>
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+|name = Barry Thorne
+|aka = Big Bear
+|status = Alive
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+|pob = [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]]
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+|home = [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]]<br />[[Glen Park]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]]
+|nationality = United States
+|family =
+|affiliations = [[Grove Street Families]]<br />[[B Dup]]<br />[[Sweet]]<br />[[Carl Johnson]]<br />[[Big Smoke]]<br />[[Ryder]]
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+|voice = [[Kurt Alexander]]
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+'''Barry "Big Bear" Thorne''', is a character in the [[3D Universe]] who appears as a minor character in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]], set in [[1992]]. He is a long serving member of the [[Grove Street Families]] and drug user. He is voiced by [[Kurt Alexander]].
-Barry Thorne is a member of the [[Grove Street Families]] and is one of the longest serving members of the gang. Between 1987 and 1992 he had began to use drugs<ref name="Rehab">'''Carl Johnson''': "How'd B Dup get his claws into you, Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Man, Grove Street Families used to be tight, man. Then Li'l [[Brian Johnson|Brian]] caught it, you ran off. I don't mean to dis you, man, but you did."<br>'''Carl Johnson''': "I know, but I'm back now."<br>'''Big Bear''': "True, homie, that's real speed. Anyways man, Sweet, he just became  a hard man to deal with, you know? Then we got bad blood with Seville Boulevard Families and they split from the Grove. Then Temple, hell, they went loneranger too Sweet, man, he did absolutely nothing. Next thing I knew B Dup's, he's making money, Grove Street, they set tripping. Streets ain't no place to be when every fool is trying to make a move. So I tried my first blast - see what the fuss is all about, right? Now look at me, a rockstar..." (deleted text from the [[Beat Down on B-Dup]] mission, found in a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/914983/39957 FAQ by RARusk])</ref>, likely supplied by [[B-Dup]]. Eventually, and by the time of the GTA San Andreas storyline, Bear had become the man servant of B-Dup and does various chores, including cleaning the toilet.<ref name="Toilet Cleaner">'''B-Dup''': "Nah, the only thing Bear give a fuck about is smoking and keeping my house clean. Ain't that right, Big Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Hell yeah."<br>'''B-Dup''': "Hell yeah, what?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Hell, yeah, sir!"<br>'''B-Dup''': "Now go make that mother-fucking toilet sparkle." (from the [[Cleaning the Hood]] mission)</ref> Bear had lost much respect and had turned on the Grove Street Families in order to get more drugs.<ref name="GSF">'''B-Dup''': "Nah, the only thing Bear give a fuck about is smoking and keeping my house clean. Ain't that right, Big Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Hell yeah." (from the [[Cleaning the Hood]] mission)</ref> However, Bear eventually confronts B-Dup and decides to stop taking drugs.<ref name="B-Dup">'''B-Dup''': "Kill these mother-fuckers and I'll give you a whole quarter sack. Now handle that. Shoot them! What the fuck is wrong with you? You ain't hear what the fuck I said?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "I'm tired of smoking, I'm tired of crack and I'm tired of doing your fucking housework. (from the [[Beat Down on B-Dup]] mission)</ref> [[Sean Johnson|Sweet Johnson]] helps Bear with taking him to drug rehab.<ref name="Rehab 2">'''Big Bear (Barry Thorne)''': " Where we going, Sweet?"<br>'''Sweet Johnson''': "Someplace where we can get old Bear back!" (from the [[Beat Down on B-Dup]] mission)</ref>
+==Character history==
+Bear was presumably born in [[Ganton]] and later joined the [[Grove Street Families]]. He rose to a prominent position in the gang but after [[1987]] began to stay away from gang activities. During this time he began using drugs and was enslaved to his dealer and fellow gangster [[B Dup|Mark "B-Dup" Wayne]], often being made to do degrading chores such as being [[Cleaning the Hood|ordered to clean the toilet in front]] of protagonist [[Carl Johnson|Carl "CJ" Johnson]] and tertiary antagonist [[Ryder|Lance "Ryder" Wilson]].
-In a deleted cut scene from the mission [[Beat Down on B-Dup]], Carl Johnson would take Bear to rehab with Bear explaining how he got into drugs.<ref name="Rehab">'''Carl Johnson''': "How'd B Dup get his claws into you, Bear?"<br>'''Big Bear''': "Man, Grove Street Families used to be tight, man. Then Li'l [[Brian Johnson|Brian]] caught it, you ran off. I don't mean to dis you, man, but you did."<br>'''Carl Johnson''': "I know, but I'm back now."<br>'''Big Bear''': "True, homie, that's real speed. Anyways man, Sweet, he just became  a hard man to deal with, you know? Then we got bad blood with Seville Boulevard Families and they split from the Grove. Then Temple, hell, they went loneranger too Sweet, man, he did absolutely nothing. Next thing I knew B Dup's, he's making money, Grove Street, they set tripping. Streets ain't no place to be when every fool is trying to make a move. So I tried my first blast - see what the fuss is all about, right? Now look at me, a rockstar..." (deleted text from the [[Beat Down on B-Dup]] mission, found in a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/914983/39957 FAQ by RARusk])</ref> This would set up a mission where Carl would search for [[Big Smoke]] and would need to find an informant. Bear tells Carl and Sweet about a [[Russian Mafia]] gang member who would inform Carl of Smoke's whereabouts<ref name="Big Smoke">'''Big Bear''': "Yeah, but only to a select circle of cats. Yo, even B Dup got cut off. Wait, there is a Russian cat. Just stays in his spot on the other side of town. I think he copped off Smoke" (from the deleted [[Looking for Big Smoke]] mission, found in a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/914983/39957 FAQ by RARusk])</ref>, which would set up the mission [[End of the Line]].
+He continues to live with Dup due to his drug addiction and moves with him into a house in [[Glen Park]], a territory controlled by his arch rivals, the [[Ballas]]. Bear, however, continues to resent his ill treatment at the hands of Dup and, determined to get clean, stands up to Dup when backed up by Carl and Grove Street Families [[Gang Leaders|leader]] [[Sweet|Sean "Sweet" Johnson]] upon their return to the streets, [[Beat Down on B Dup|punching Dup]] before leaving to enter rehab. He is driven away by Sweet in Dup's [[Infernus|car]].
+==Trivia==
+*Game files show two versions of Bear, both wearing the same clothing. One shows the model of Bear used in the game and the second shows a much fatter Bear.
+*Part of the original [[Beat Down on B Dup]] mission involved Carl driving Bear to a rehab centre, where he explained why he began using drugs, stating that the break up of the three families and the attempts of others to rise to power led him to stay at home and then search for adventure in drugs.
+*Bear was also to feature in the mission [[All-Terrain Take Down]] where he told Carl and Sweet of a [[Russian Mafia]] gangster who could inform Carl and Sweet of the location of [[Grove Street Families]] defaulter [[Big Smoke|Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris]]. During this mission he also states that he and Dup were also cut off from Smoke's 'select circle of cats'.
 ==Mission appearances==
 ;GTA San Andreas
 *[[Cleaning the Hood]]
-*[[Beat Down on B-Dup]]
+*[[Beat Down on B Dup]]
-*[[Looking for Big Smoke]] <small>(Deleted mission)</small>
-==References==
+;Cut Mission
+*[[All-Terrain Take Down]]
-<div class="references-small">
+==Gallery==
-<references/>
+<gallery>
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+File:BeatDownonBDup-GTASA4.jpg|Big Bear shortly after punching [[B Dup]] during [[Beat Down on B Dup]].
+</gallery>
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